+++ Possible OOTP 6 Features +++

Markus Heinsohn · 08-03-2003, 12:29 PM

OK guys, here are the things that I have planned for OOTP 6. Keep in mind that this can change anytime, but these are the top priorities for me at the moment:

1) Brand new in-game engine. I have learned so much in the past 5 years, mainly by watching a lot of baseball and your input. So, I feel it's the best way to completely recode the game engine (including play-by-play), to incorporate the things that are currently not very realistic and adding a lot more variety, and possibly even pitch-by-pitch.

2) New ratings system, with a scale of 1-10 for stealing, running, speed, and only one pitcher duration rating. Also, the pitching and batting ratings will be remodeled. I am not 100% sure yet how this will look like in the end.

3) Better player development, with bigger distinction between highschool players and college players. There will be those "great athletes, not much baseball skills yet" and "bed athletes, great baseball instincts" guys and everything in-between. Overall, there will be a lot more variety in player development and aging.

4) More realistic draft, with signing bonuses, players refusing to sign etc.

5) Better scouting system, with international scouting and baseball clinics in the Carribean.

6) AI taking current stats more into consideration in trades, roster management etc.

7) Head-to-head internet play

8) Better support for historical leagues because of the new game engine.

9) Brand new news system

10) Customizeable reports

11) Database output of the whole league and stats

By the way, does anyone of you play CM 4? My dream would be a 2D game engine for OOTP, but this will probably not happen before OOTP 7.

OK, just something I wanted to share with you

Matteo · 08-03-2003, 12:33 PM

Yeah, I play CM, it is great, in particular the AI!

Very good ideas Markus!

Modern Relic · 08-03-2003, 12:33 PM

Sounds awesome, Markus! I can't wait!

PotatoPeeler · 08-03-2003, 12:34 PM

Excellent! Really looking forward to it, Markus!

dougk62 · 08-03-2003, 12:57 PM

Looks like this was Markus' last post till April.

Sweed · 08-03-2003, 01:11 PM

Sounds cool Markus but I do have a question. With a brand new engine and changes in the way players are rated are we going to be able to import our current dynasties?

Ankit · 08-03-2003, 01:15 PM

This sounds very good. Also, a big thumbs up for deciding to write a complete NEW in-game engine. A risky but courageous move considering the current in-game engine only has very few major flaws and some minor ones. Anyways, good luck...

Andy · 08-03-2003, 01:22 PM

Wow, sounds good!

Bohica · 08-03-2003, 01:28 PM

Markus, I cant say it enough........you da man!!!!
Head to Head internet play(awesome)

pauldouglas · 08-03-2003, 01:30 PM

That sounds so awseome, Im still on a high for finding ootp5 , I have been playing the daylights out of this game. I never thought i would love a sim so much , The only sad thing is i wasted 3yrs playing highheat, I could of been playing ootp

Draft Dodger · 08-03-2003, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by Markus Heinsohn
2) New ratings system, with a scale of 1-10 for stealing, running, speed, and only one pitcher duration rating. Also, the pitching and batting ratings will be remodeled. I am not 100% sure yet how this will look like in the end.

ok, first, bravo on the pitching thing. I think this is going to be a tremendous improvement.

but personally, I'm not sure that running ratings need to be on a scale of 1-10. I actually think the 1-5 system you use now (A-E I guess) is closer to realistic. I guess what I'm saying is, in real life baseball, I don't think their is 10 different tiers of running speeds.
Same goes with fielding, btw.

CMH · 08-03-2003, 01:32 PM

Very nice.

Love to see the courageous jump you are takin with this game.

The new features are all great!

Draft Dodger · 08-03-2003, 01:34 PM

btw, still would like to see you build on the CSV importing function implemented in OOTP5. It's helpful, but still not as "full-featured" as it can be. It still requires a great deal of "in game" cleanup work for roster creators.

jaxmagicman · 08-03-2003, 01:47 PM

Awesome. Almost everything we wanted. I have just one question, and I am not trying to correct grammar or anything, I am just not familar with the term, what is a "bed athlete?

Henry · 08-03-2003, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by jaxmagicman
... what is a "bed athlete?

That has to be explained ?!?! LOL

attackemu · 08-03-2003, 01:55 PM

"bed athlete"....you know. Babe Ruth, Joe Namath, Wilt Chamberlain.....bed athletes.

I hope that if pitch-by-pitch is implemented, it's an option. I quite enjoy not seeing every pitch. For me personally, pitch by pitch would become rather tedious. It's fun in actual baseball because you can see the movement of the ball, the batter's reactions and whatnot, but for a text game, it could be dull. My opinion.

jaxmagicman · 08-03-2003, 01:57 PM

I don't understand what it means. Bed athlete, means is a natural or has the abiltity to be great. I have never heard that turn before.

Kurtis R. · 08-03-2003, 03:07 PM

Awesome stuff Markus.. can't wait.

Kurtis

kcchief19 · 08-03-2003, 03:08 PM

If all of those things make it into v6, I would consider it a must-purchase, especially if you change the word "possibly" to "definitely" in front of pitch-by-pitch. It kills me to not be able to call pitches and have greater instructions that I give my hitters.

From playing in an online league for just a few days, I do have a greater appreciation for OOTP as a multiplayer game. However, most of my playing will always be solo play, so anything that improves that would be a big plus.

I also saw you mention in another discussion about making it easier to allow online players to do things such as release players. Definitely in favor of that, and maybe helping to automate other online league/commish functions? It seems that while OOTP does a TON of things to facilitate online leagues, it still requires a major committment from good commishes to work. Anything to make their jobs easier would be a plus.

Good list!

Malificent · 08-03-2003, 03:21 PM

Markus,

A KEY element, and I mean that as strongly as possible, is making sure that imports from v5 into v6 are flawless. Otherwise, long standing online leagues may be very hesitant to move.

But your plans do sound nice.

08-03-2003, 12:29 PM	#1
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,803	+++ "Possible"OOTP 6 Features +++ OK guys, here are the things that I have planned for OOTP 6. Keep in mind that this can change anytime, but these are the top priorities for me at the moment: 1) Brand new in-game engine. I have learned so much in the past 5 years, mainly by watching a lot of baseball and your input. So, I feel it's the best way to completely recode the game engine (including play-by-play), to incorporate the things that are currently not very realistic and adding a lot more variety, and possibly even pitch-by-pitch. 2) New ratings system, with a scale of 1-10 for stealing, running, speed, and only one pitcher duration rating. Also, the pitching and batting ratings will be remodeled. I am not 100% sure yet how this will look like in the end. 3) Better player development, with bigger distinction between highschool players and college players. There will be those "great athletes, not much baseball skills yet" and "bed athletes, great baseball instincts" guys and everything in-between. Overall, there will be a lot more variety in player development and aging. 4) More realistic draft, with signing bonuses, players refusing to sign etc. 5) Better scouting system, with international scouting and baseball clinics in the Carribean. 6) AI taking current stats more into consideration in trades, roster management etc. 7) Head-to-head internet play 8) Better support for historical leagues because of the new game engine. 9) Brand new news system 10) Customizeable reports 11) Database output of the whole league and stats By the way, does anyone of you play CM 4? My dream would be a 2D game engine for OOTP, but this will probably not happen before OOTP 7. OK, just something I wanted to share with you

08-03-2003, 12:33 PM	#2
Matteo Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 473	Yeah, I play CM, it is great, in particular the AI! Very good ideas Markus! __________________ ESPN The Show live chat during 2004 ALCS: Julie (Boston): Do you think Jeter does the fist pump everytime he disappoints a woman in bed? Or does he save it for when he's with A-Rod? Bill Simmons: Whoops - I didn't mean to post that. Really, I didn't.

08-03-2003, 12:33 PM	#3
Modern Relic All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,266	Sounds awesome, Markus! I can't wait! __________________ American Folklore Baseball League (closed): Commissioner/GM - Mudville Nine (ruled!) Former member of Boys of Summer: GM - St. Louis Browns (doormats!) Former member of the OTBL: GM - Gashouse Gorillas (also ruled!) "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

08-03-2003, 12:34 PM	#4
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08-03-2003, 12:57 PM	#5
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08-03-2003, 01:15 PM	#7
Ankit All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 603	This sounds very good. Also, a big thumbs up for deciding to write a complete NEW in-game engine. A risky but courageous move considering the current in-game engine only has very few major flaws and some minor ones. Anyways, good luck... __________________

08-03-2003, 01:22 PM	#8
Andy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 2,270	Wow, sounds good!

08-03-2003, 01:28 PM	#9
Bohica Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 226	Markus, I cant say it enough........you da man!!!! Head to Head internet play(awesome) __________________ "I cant say it enough, if you swing the bat you can be dangerous" Joe Nuxhall

08-03-2003, 01:30 PM	#10
pauldouglas Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6	That sounds so awseome, Im still on a high for finding ootp5 , I have been playing the daylights out of this game. I never thought i would love a sim so much , The only sad thing is i wasted 3yrs playing highheat, I could of been playing ootp __________________ Cub`s fan Till the end

08-03-2003, 01:32 PM	#12
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	Very nice. Love to see the courageous jump you are takin with this game. The new features are all great!

08-03-2003, 01:34 PM	#13
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	btw, still would like to see you build on the CSV importing function implemented in OOTP5. It's helpful, but still not as "full-featured" as it can be. It still requires a great deal of "in game" cleanup work for roster creators. __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

08-03-2003, 01:47 PM	#14
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Awesome. Almost everything we wanted. I have just one question, and I am not trying to correct grammar or anything, I am just not familar with the term, what is a "bed athlete? __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

08-03-2003, 01:55 PM	#16
attackemu All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 972	"bed athlete"....you know. Babe Ruth, Joe Namath, Wilt Chamberlain.....bed athletes. I hope that if pitch-by-pitch is implemented, it's an option. I quite enjoy not seeing every pitch. For me personally, pitch by pitch would become rather tedious. It's fun in actual baseball because you can see the movement of the ball, the batter's reactions and whatnot, but for a text game, it could be dull. My opinion. __________________ "Disguised in EMU's Blunt and sometimes hostile post is actually very sound advice. I think you would be wise to consider what he said." -ihatenames

08-03-2003, 01:57 PM	#17
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	I don't understand what it means. Bed athlete, means is a natural or has the abiltity to be great. I have never heard that turn before. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

08-03-2003, 03:07 PM	#18
Kurtis R. All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,105	Awesome stuff Markus.. can't wait. Kurtis __________________ CUBL Commissioner

08-03-2003, 03:08 PM	#19
kcchief19 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 21	If all of those things make it into v6, I would consider it a must-purchase, especially if you change the word "possibly" to "definitely" in front of pitch-by-pitch. It kills me to not be able to call pitches and have greater instructions that I give my hitters. From playing in an online league for just a few days, I do have a greater appreciation for OOTP as a multiplayer game. However, most of my playing will always be solo play, so anything that improves that would be a big plus. I also saw you mention in another discussion about making it easier to allow online players to do things such as release players. Definitely in favor of that, and maybe helping to automate other online league/commish functions? It seems that while OOTP does a TON of things to facilitate online leagues, it still requires a major committment from good commishes to work. Anything to make their jobs easier would be a plus. Good list!

08-03-2003, 03:21 PM	#20
Malificent Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 15	Markus, A KEY element, and I mean that as strongly as possible, is making sure that imports from v5 into v6 are flawless. Otherwise, long standing online leagues may be very hesitant to move. But your plans do sound nice.