The Royal Explorers Club of Glasgow, Scotland

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Royal Explorers' Club
World Title Lineage
Corcoran, Peter (1769 - )
Darts, William (1764 - )
Lamb, Jack (1768 - )
de Saint Georges, Chevalier (1765 - )
Millsom, George (1762 - )
Lyons, Tom (1769 - )
Meggs, George (1761 - )
Brain, Big Ben (1772 - )

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Royal Explorers' Club
de Saint Georges, Chevalier (1765 - )
Millsom, George (1762 - )
Brain, Big Ben (1772 - )

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Royal Explorers' Club
World Heavyweight Lineage
Corcoran, Peter (1769 - )
de Saint Georges, Chevalier (1765 - )

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Royal Explorers' Club
World Heavyweight Lineage
Corcoran, Peter (1769 - )
Millsom, George (1762 - )

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American_Ernesider askedabout fighter file compilations, Many can be found following the link to Christopher's Royal Explorers Club website.

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Income tax deadline has passed. I'm looking for this universe to resume.

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Well, it's been a while. I somewhat lost interest in this because I wanted to add horse racing and sumo (after the two early 18th century Yokozuna were phonied up entrants in the prize ring here) but I had lost the great horse racing sim that I liked in a hard drive crash (it can't be bought or downloaded any more) and I never found a sumo sim that I liked. So, I drifted along and eventually just stopped all together.


At this point, I found the old horse race sim on a five year old detached storage device and it works! I also came across a really fun sumo dice and card game called Basho Fury created by Sideline Strategy Games Sideline Strategy | Games for your tabletop which is run by our very own Statfreak here on this board (Joe).


Joe's game has cards for some recent sumo years and a few all time great sets. He was kind enough to help me turn his basic cards into a set of templates that I expanded a bit. I made a spreadsheet of historical sumo wrestlers using data from this site: Find Rikishi ranked them (100 year's worth of data) and assigned each a template number. I added a simplistic aging process (wrestlers enter at 20 aside from the first year of the sim).


The sumo world for me starts in 1758 with the Makuuchi and Juryo divisions (Makushi-ta starts in 1759) and I will run this up to 1777 where I left off with the prize ring and get back to that (and horse racing). Probably will be there in a decade at my current pace.


So, welcome to my pseudo-historical sumo world sim starting way back in 1758.

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A brief Sumo primer.

A sumo match is decided simply by having any part of a wrestler touch the ground outside of the circle or by having any part of the body other than the soles of the feet touch the ground inside the circle. The wrestlers can push, pull, charge, slap,throw, et cetera.Matches are frequentlyover in less than one minute (at times, seconds) but can last five or even ten minutes on rare occasions.

There are six main tournaments (called a Basho) each year in the modern era. A Basho lasts 15days.Each wrestler in the top two divisions competes once per day while the lower divisions allow for only 7 matches during the basho.The winner of the basho (Yusho) is the wrestler (rikishi) who notches the most victories.Wrestlers from the same stable (heya) or who share bloodlines are not allowed to face one another.No wrestlers are allowed to face each other more than once during a basho unless there is a tie at the end of the fifteenth day for most wins in which case a playoff is held immediately following the final day fifteen match.During a playoff, the prohibitions against stable mates and relations as well as the no second meeting rule are waived.
Outside of winning the tournament (yusho) wrestlers seek to have a winning record. A wrestler that wins more matches than he loses is said to have achieved a kachi-koshi.Losing more matches than one wins earns a make-koshi.Wrestlers that achieve the minimum kachi-koshi record of 8-7 are assured to keep their ranking for the next basho.
There are six ranked divisions with the highest three (and the only ones that I will be using) being Makuuchi, Juryo and Makushi-ta.

Makushi-ta – consists of 120 rikishi who each have sevenmatches at a basho. A rikishi thatachieves a record of 7-0 while ranked in the top 60 of the Makushi-ta divisionis promoted to the Juryo division.

Juryo – consists of 28 rikishi who each have 15 matches within a basho. Juryo wrestlers that win their division (yusho) or achieve a high record without making yusho can be promoted to the Makuuchi division provided that there is space for them.

Makuuchi – This is the top division in the sport and consists of 42 rikishi divided into two groups; the san’yaku (champions) and maegashira. The san’yaku is further divided into Yokozuna, Ozeki, Sekiwake and Komusubi ranks.The Maegashira are ordered based on prior basho performances and are named Maegashira 1, Maegashira 2, Maegashira 3 andso on.A little more on the champions(san’yaku) division:

Yokozuna – highest rank achieved by winning two consecutive basho and being deemed worthy by a panel that weighs the wrestler’s charactertraits along with sumo reord. A Yokozunacan not be demoted and is expected to retire from the sport when they can nolonger achieve kachi-koshi at a basho. There is no set limit to the number of rikishi that can be ranked at this level.

Ozeki – Promoted from Sekiwake rank after gaining at least 33 wins over 3 consecutive basho. An Ozeki that loses more matches than he wins is not demoted.He has a chance to achieve kachi-koshi (atleast 8-7) at the following basho and would then be demoted if he fails (at which time, he would need 33 wins over 3 basho to again achieve the Ozeki rank).There is no limit to the number of rikishi that can be ranked Ozeki.

Sekiwake – Promoted from the Komusubi rank. Demoted with a losing record.There are only two rikishi allowed at this rank at a time.

Komusubi – Promoted from the Maegashira ranks. Demoted witha losing record. There are only two rikishi allowed at this rank at a time.

About 1-2 weeks prior to each Basho, a ranking sheet is unveiled called a Banzuke.


Each rank level (Ozeki, Maegashira3, et cetera) contain two wrestlers ranked east and west with the east being higher than the west.

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Black dots indicate the loser. White dots the winner. The kimarte is the method of victory - I will post a summary of what the most common ones mean a bit later.

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Kimarite is the winning technique used in a sumo match. There are over 80 distinct moves defined. The most common are Yorikiri (forcing opponent out of ring backwards while holding his garment (the mawashi), Oshidashi (forcing ut backward without holding garment) and hatakikomi (forcing the opponent face down in the ring by slapping them down).


Here is a full list:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimarite


If anyone wants to check out sumo, now is a great time. The November Basho in Fukushima starts this Sunday. There is a youtube channel from a fellow that shows the top matches and offers commentary that is perfect for us novices.


https://www.youtube.com/user/JasonsinJapan

There was a lot of drama in September as the reigning superman - Hokkuho - retired from the basho. He is supposed to be back this Sunday and is one of the all time great Yokozuna. He may end up being to Sumo what Foreman or Frazier were to boxing (perhaps even Ali/Louis level by the end)

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Just watched a whole load of highlights on Jason's channel from September 2015 and the championship playoff.

Didn't quite understand one moment, Kakuryū wins but booed at 10:58 - hoping you could explain exactly what happened. Thanks.

Have to say enjoyed it and will check in on the new tournament.

Like the way the sport seems to be structured with different levels, already given thought into how I could work that into a tb boxing universe.

Hopefully by following your posts and catching the tournament I'll develop a better understanding.

Thanks for posting.

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I am a novice in terms of the intricacies of the sport but I do remember that. Either in the chat on one of Jason's Youtube videos or at Sumo Forum ( Sumo Forum ) I recall that being discussed. from what I gather, that side step and push down during the initial charge is legal but considered, for my own lack of a better term, "bush league". A cheap trick. Both men charge and slam into each other and then try to work a kimarite on their opponent. I guess that little bull fighter move in the opening moment while both are somewhat exposed is thought of as robbing the fans of a good match, cheap, cowardly or some combination of all that.

Edit: The tough thing about a situation like that for people like me is that when you go to a forum, everyone there talks about the situation with a base of understanding that I have not developed yet. It can still be bewildering to me at times. I suppose it would be a little like a complete novice seeing a guy steal in the eighth inning while his team is up 10 runs. A chat forum might explode with comments while no one actually states plainly what was wrong with that stolen base.


I am a novice to sumo but totally hooked now. By the way, another channel on Youtube runs all the Makuuchi matches in fast highlight fashion with no breaks or commentary. He posts about 6-8 hours before Jason does. I like to watch his highlights after I watch Jason's more in depth videos of just the San'yaku (generally). Sometimes I do reverse the order though because I just want to know what happened.


The other highlight is already up for day one of the November basho (Jason's will be up mid day or so)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9JHV0Dh0i4

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If it's your first look at this, two interesting guys to focus on are Amuru the Russian (ranked somewhere around Maegashira 5 this basho) and the Egyptian whose name I can't pronounce or spell - he is a Maegashira 1 this basho.


Both are unorthodox. The Egyptian is very strong and fit though large. He uses a frantic out of the ordinary style. The Russian is very small by sumo standards. He was a national or European champion in another martial art discipline before coming over to sumo. He struggles to get his kachi-komi but comes up with some great wins by technique. Both are different from the norm and either loved or hated by the crowds. They deffinately bring attention to themselves.


You may also see the crowds get on Guidou (spelling?) - he is an Ozeki that fans had high hopes of that looks like he just doesn't care at times. He's been a very bad Ozeki and may get demoted after this basho if he has a second make-koshi in a row.