Detroit Tigers 2015 Season Thread - Page 20

CONN CHRIS · 07-31-2015, 06:14 AM

I found this on Jones:

Both Baseball America and MLB.com praise Jones’ combination of power and speed but note that he’s raw and a bit inexperienced at shortstop after playing mostly second base and center field at LSU. BA notes that he has a propensity to swing and miss, while MLB.com praises his aggressive style on the basepaths and pure athleticism.
Jones recently reached Double-A but has just three games at that level. He’s batting a combined .260/.319/.398 across two levels in the minors this season and is a .277/.336/.445 career hitter overall in his pro career.

Looks like the Pirates were trying to convert him from 2B to SS. Perfect.

CONN CHRIS · 07-31-2015, 06:21 AM

The future starts this weekend:

Daniel Norris ‏@DanielNorris18 16h16 hours ago
Incredibly thankful for my time with the @BlueJays - dreams came true. - Detroit, I'm stoked to be here. Truly. @tigers #justkeeplivin

Daniel Norris retweeted

Detroit Tigers ‏@tigers 13h13 hours ago
LHP @DanielNorris18 will start for the #Tigers on Sunday at Baltimore. He will wear #44.

CONN CHRIS · 07-31-2015, 06:25 AM

I love this guy already:

@DanielNorris18

I live to find 3 things. 1. Eternal life. 2. The strike zone. & 3. Good waves - 2 Peter 3:18 - Just Keep Livin' *dirtbag*

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiki

Despite his $2 million signing bonus, Norris lives off just $800 a month. In an interview with ESPN he was asked why he chooses to continue to live so conservatively. He asked back, "Who am I to deserve that? What have I really done?” He has also said, "I'm actually more comfortable being kind of poor," as it helps him maintain a minimalist lifestyle and resist conformity.

cephasjames · 07-31-2015, 07:42 AM

So, what time today is Cespedes dealt?

Will Davis be gone too?

How about Avila?

Simon?

CONN CHRIS · 07-31-2015, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cephasjames

So, what time today is Cespedes dealt?

Will Davis be gone too?

How about Avila?

Simon?

I will be surprised if all four are still in Detroit by 4:00. Not so sure about Kinsler.

Wild day ahead.

CONN CHRIS · 07-31-2015, 01:08 PM

Three hours and counting.

++++++++++
Ken Rosenthal
@Ken_Rosenthal
#Mets talking to #Tigers about Cespedes, sources tell me and @jonmorosi . One of their many options.

Jon Heyman
@JonHeymanCBS
mets greatest concern is lagares in CF. so rajai davis & venable could work. but upton/cespedes more lineup impact.
++++++++++++

How about Davis & Cespedes - shake some of that young pitching loose!

Westheim · 07-31-2015, 01:28 PM

Nope. You can have Wheeler, but the rest of the flock stays where it is.

And Granderson and three out of the pen, plus Mejia, for J.D. Martinez.

CONN CHRIS · 07-31-2015, 01:49 PM

Wow, the Jays are moving all their chips to the center of the table and vomiting the talent out of their system.

They had better roll long and hard with the deals they are making.

CONN CHRIS · 07-31-2015, 03:30 PM

30 minutes to trade deadline:

Bob Nightengale
@BNightengale
The #Tigers real close to moving Cespedes. The #whitesox involved but not the favorite

CONN CHRIS · 07-31-2015, 03:52 PM

3:51 - Someone claiming to be Buster Olney says Cespedes is heading to the Mats.

CONN CHRIS · 07-31-2015, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

3:51 - Someone claiming to be Buster Olney says Cespedes is heading to the Mats.

Wheeler not part of deal, two as yet un-named minor leaguers. grrr

Lukas Berger · 07-31-2015, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Wheeler not part of deal, two as yet un-named minor leaguers. grrr

NY was never going to give up Wheeler for a rental, sorry.

The MiLB guys are Fulmer and Cessa according to Mets centric sources.

You'll like Fulmer, I'm pretty sure. He's been looking great and is likely almost MLB ready.

CONN CHRIS · 07-31-2015, 04:07 PM

I take the 'grrr' back. This could be good.

Michael Fulmer Minor League Statistics & History | Baseball-Reference.com

CONN CHRIS · 07-31-2015, 04:10 PM

Yes, seeing Cessa noted now too - not sure what to make of him:

Luis Cessa Minor League Statistics & History | Baseball-Reference.com

Lukas Berger · 07-31-2015, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Yes, seeing Cessa noted now too - not sure what to make of him:

Luis Cessa Minor League Statistics & History | Baseball-Reference.com

I've been ambivalent about him. Doesn't K enough guys to look like a good MLB starter to me, but some scouting reports have been pretty high on him.

I think he's probably a 5th starter, decent RP type in the end, with the potential for a bit more best case. That isn't great, but it's not awful either.

RchW · 07-31-2015, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Wow, the Jays are moving all their chips to the center of the table and vomiting the talent out of their system.

They had better roll long and hard with the deals they are making.

I didn't know we had any pitchers left.

Edit it is a 2-year window maybe 3 with Tulowitski and Donaldson. Injuries could derail this fast.

jacknastyspartan · 07-31-2015, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Wow, the Jays are moving all their chips to the center of the table and vomiting the talent out of their system.

They had better roll long and hard with the deals they are making.

Blue Jays GM doesn't care. He needs to win some games to be there next year. If it works out and they make the playoffs, fantastic for him, he's bought more time. If it doesn't and he gets fired, he doesn't have to pick up the pieces.

kingtut313 · 07-31-2015, 06:39 PM

Interesting graphic I found earlier. It just shows how imbalanced our team has been this year due to the horrendous pitching.

ThatSeventiesGuy · 07-31-2015, 07:30 PM

While that chart pleases this Cardinal fan...man, that's tough for you guys. I remember when you had some scary good starting pitching not all that long ago. Verlander was the right-handed Kershaw just a few years back. Now he's barely putting up #4 starter numbers. One of the quickest declines I've seen in a while. I certainly didn't see it coming, anyway. What happened? Kate Upton?

TribeFanInNC · 07-31-2015, 07:31 PM

That graph is total mularkey. There is no way the Indians batters are equivalently good to their pitching.

The Indians have like 12 WAR from batters. I bet Kipnis and Brantley are like 8 WAR. The other 10-15 guys are total 4 WAR. Nice production.

07-31-2015, 06:14 AM	#381
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,107	I found this on Jones: Both Baseball America and MLB.com praise Jones’ combination of power and speed but note that he’s raw and a bit inexperienced at shortstop after playing mostly second base and center field at LSU. BA notes that he has a propensity to swing and miss, while MLB.com praises his aggressive style on the basepaths and pure athleticism. Jones recently reached Double-A but has just three games at that level. He’s batting a combined .260/.319/.398 across two levels in the minors this season and is a .277/.336/.445 career hitter overall in his pro career. Looks like the Pirates were trying to convert him from 2B to SS. Perfect. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

07-31-2015, 06:21 AM	#382
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,107	The future starts this weekend: Daniel Norris ‏@DanielNorris18 16h16 hours ago Incredibly thankful for my time with the @BlueJays - dreams came true. - Detroit, I'm stoked to be here. Truly. @tigers #justkeeplivin Daniel Norris retweeted Detroit Tigers ‏@tigers 13h13 hours ago LHP @DanielNorris18 will start for the #Tigers on Sunday at Baltimore. He will wear #44. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

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07-31-2015, 01:08 PM	#386
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,107	Three hours and counting. ++++++++++ Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal #Mets talking to #Tigers about Cespedes, sources tell me and @jonmorosi . One of their many options. Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS mets greatest concern is lagares in CF. so rajai davis & venable could work. but upton/cespedes more lineup impact. ++++++++++++ How about Davis & Cespedes - shake some of that young pitching loose! __________________ Check Out My Cards!

07-31-2015, 01:28 PM	#387
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07-31-2015, 01:49 PM	#388
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,107	Wow, the Jays are moving all their chips to the center of the table and vomiting the talent out of their system. They had better roll long and hard with the deals they are making. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

07-31-2015, 03:30 PM	#389
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,107	30 minutes to trade deadline: Bob Nightengale @BNightengale The #Tigers real close to moving Cespedes. The #whitesox involved but not the favorite __________________ Check Out My Cards!

07-31-2015, 03:52 PM	#390
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,107	3:51 - Someone claiming to be Buster Olney says Cespedes is heading to the Mats. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

07-31-2015, 04:07 PM	#393
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,107	I take the 'grrr' back. This could be good. Michael Fulmer Minor League Statistics & History \| Baseball-Reference.com __________________ Check Out My Cards!

07-31-2015, 04:10 PM	#394
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,107	Yes, seeing Cessa noted now too - not sure what to make of him: Luis Cessa Minor League Statistics & History \| Baseball-Reference.com __________________ Check Out My Cards!

07-31-2015, 06:39 PM	#398
kingtut313 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Lansing, MI Posts: 163	Interesting graphic I found earlier. It just shows how imbalanced our team has been this year due to the horrendous pitching. __________________ Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. - Toby Harrah

07-31-2015, 07:30 PM	#399
ThatSeventiesGuy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 3,429	While that chart pleases this Cardinal fan...man, that's tough for you guys. I remember when you had some scary good starting pitching not all that long ago. Verlander was the right-handed Kershaw just a few years back. Now he's barely putting up #4 starter numbers. One of the quickest declines I've seen in a while. I certainly didn't see it coming, anyway. What happened? Kate Upton? __________________ https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...00&postcount=1 Last edited by ThatSeventiesGuy; 07-31-2015 at 07:31 PM.

07-31-2015, 07:31 PM	#400
TribeFanInNC Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,019	That graph is total mularkey. There is no way the Indians batters are equivalently good to their pitching. The Indians have like 12 WAR from batters. I bet Kipnis and Brantley are like 8 WAR. The other 10-15 guys are total 4 WAR. Nice production.