OOTP 16 Patch #6, Version 16.6.30 Released!

[david limbaugh]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

It's back to the previous patch for me. I could take the rigmarole necessary to have my customized images without having black balloons for league leading stats (overcome by special handling of skins) but this newly noticed issue crossed the line.

In this patch, a bug was introduced which bedoggled the team records screen. If I had to guess, I would think it was introduced with this change:



Anyway, there are now errors in that screen; an example is shown below. When I reverted back to 16.5.23, everything was normal.

I reported it in the bug thread after noticing that somebody else was complaining about the same thing. This is basic; I don't care about 3D ballpark stuff but I sure as heck care about something like this:

Has anyone else noticed how players 'disappear' and 're-appear' when looking at stats of retired players and sorting columns? I have seen this happen several times now.

[diesel230]

Yes david!! I thought I was going crazy as I was paying attention to something on tv at the same time. I was sorting through active players to see who was missing a facegen and several times names I KNEW I saw in sortable players were missing after I clicked a different player and clicked back to sortable. You saved me a trip to the looney bin.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

It's back to the previous patch for me. I could take the rigmarole necessary to have my customized images without having black balloons for league leading stats (overcome by special handling of skins) but this newly noticed issue crossed the line.

In this patch, a bug was introduced which bedoggled the team records screen. If I had to guess, I would think it was introduced with this change:

[snip - see post #211]

Anyway, there are now errors in that screen; an example is shown below. When I reverted back to 16.5.23, everything was normal.

I reported it in the bug thread after noticing that somebody else was complaining about the same thing. This is basic; I don't care about 3D ballpark stuff but I sure as heck care about something like this:

[snip - see post #211]

Originally Posted by david limbaugh

Has anyone else noticed how players 'disappear' and 're-appear' when looking at stats of retired players and sorting columns? I have seen this happen several times now.

Originally Posted by diesel230

Yes david!! I thought I was going crazy as I was paying attention to something on tv at the same time. I was sorting through active players to see who was missing a facegen and several times names I KNEW I saw in sortable players were missing after I clicked a different player and clicked back to sortable. You saved me a trip to the looney bin.

Bad karma keeps trickling out about this patch. I am glad that another one is coming, but I am hoping that these glitches are being noticed in this and the bug thread by OOTPD.

[greenrebellion]

BUG FOUND. This may have been mentioned already, but if you offer a vesting option to a player for a certain amount of innings pitched, the number automatically gets multiplied by 10. So if you had a thresshold of 30 innings, it goes to 300. Then if you go in the editor and try to fix it, when you exit the editor it again multiplies whatever you entered by 10.

[dishnet34]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

It's back to the previous patch for me. I could take the rigmarole necessary to have my customized images without having black balloons for league leading stats (overcome by special handling of skins) but this newly noticed issue crossed the line.

I tried re-downloading the previous patch from the link provided in the old patch, but it just stayed on the new one. So, how can I go back to the previous patch correctly?

[Mntwins]

Does anyone know where to pick up patch 16.5.23?

[dishnet34]

Originally Posted by Mntwins

Does anyone know where to pick up patch 16.5.23?

It's supposed to be here, but I couldn't get it to go to that version.

[Déjà Bru]

Go here and click the folder for 16.5.23: Index of /ootp

Download ootp16setup.exe in that folder. That will be version 16.5.23.

You will need to uninstall 16.6.30 and reinstall 16.5.23.

Unlicense your game and back up your league first!

[ludosc]

Another issue I found with this patch is that the "disable AI promotion/demotion" doesn't work anymore. I usually have all the minor leaguers I care about on that setting so I control their movement but it doesn't lock the players anymore.

[txranger]

Aren't league files not reverse compatible to previous patches once opened and saved under the most current patch? Seems like I read that somewhere...

[ludosc]

Originally Posted by txranger

Aren't league files not reverse compatible to previous patches once opened and saved under the most current patch? Seems like I read that somewhere...

I learned awhile ago to save copies of all league files prior to updating. Also, Go Rangers!!!

[endgame]

Originally Posted by ludosc

Another issue I found with this patch is that the "disable AI promotion/demotion" doesn't work anymore. I usually have all the minor leaguers I care about on that setting so I control their movement but it doesn't lock the players anymore.

That's an odd one and it generally falls under a designation of responsibility. What mode (role) are you playing and who is assigned control of minor league promotions and demotions?

[ludosc]

Originally Posted by endgame

That's an odd one and it generally falls under a designation of responsibility. What mode (role) are you playing and who is assigned control of minor league promotions and demotions?

On the one I tried, gm & manager with assistant gm handling all milb stuff. This is a league I carried over that used the same settings and those players never moved unless I did it.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by txranger

Aren't league files not reverse compatible to previous patches once opened and saved under the most current patch? Seems like I read that somewhere...

You may be on to something, Tex, unless this is what you remember reading:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...79-post12.html

in which case it may be coincidental, what happened to me. Where else have you seen what you talk about here?

[txranger]

I don't remember, but just seems like recently I remember seeing that when someone was asking about reverting to an earlier patch... Maybe its just Déjà vu...

[endgame]

Originally Posted by ludosc

On the one I tried, gm & manager with assistant gm handling all milb stuff. This is a league I carried over that used the same settings and those players never moved unless I did it.

Yeah, if the Assistant GM is handling that, he'll move them up and down as he sees fit. You can always lock an individual player to a level, but if you don't want any movement, you have to be the one in control of that level.

[ludosc]

Originally Posted by endgame

Yeah, if the Assistant GM is handling that, he'll move them up and down as he sees fit. You can always lock an individual player to a level, but if you don't want any movement, you have to be the one in control of that level.

But that's how I've always done it. With players I want to control, I disable AI promotion/demotion and the AI/Assistant GM hasn't touched em...until this update.

[Déjà Bru]

As a community service, here are what I have gleaned as the issues identified with this patch. Many of these, Matt has already said will be fixed in the upcoming maintenance patch. So, in the order in which they appeared in the patch thread:

• Black blobs around league leading stats with customized skins (when default skin.bin is deleted and rebuilt - new skins need to be downloaded from Add-Ons Central).
• Some users are seeing blank Leaderboard Appearances in player histories.
• Expanded roster size cannot be set when reserve roster is used.
• Option to turn off player information pop-up windows does not stay off from one game playing session to the next.
• Minor league players are missing. Minor league rosters have 25 players but some of them are injured and there are not enough healthy players to fill the rosters.
• Various problems with Team History stat leader lists, particularly for pitchers.
• Sporadic erroneous "OK to come off the DL" messages when the player still has time left to serve on the DL (this is not the season-ending "remove everybody from the DL" feature but may be associated with this change).
• Players "disappear" and "re-appear" when looking at stats of retired players and sorting columns.

I am not including the "players playing out of position" and "AI making boneheaded decisions" issues which can be subject to varying interpretations or viewed as ongoing areas of continuing development.

There are two other recent entries in this thread with references to possible bugs: greenrebelion (post #224) and ludosc (post #229). I am not discounting these but I have included only the issues which seem to have been confirmed by other users or responses from OOTPD. They should be looked at and either confirmed or denied.

Here are two other threads that ask whether there are these problems with this patch:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ng-voting.html (may be related to pitcher WAR)

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...-rotation.html

Sorry if I missed anything.

[david limbaugh]

Deja -- MVP voting has same issues as Cy Young

Because I play a 48 game season from April to July service time is lower - I have had a few players win Rookie of the Year twice. Am I missing the old setting I used to have of setting the amount of games for service time????

Can we get rain outs during games not being done correctly bug added to the list?

[RchW]

The Cy Young thing is an enhancement not a bug or a problem. I realize people are piling on now but it's getting ridiculous.