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Old 07-10-2015, 04:56 PM   #1
Mike45
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Really crazy seasons...by 1 player

Quick background...

I am doing a historical league which I started in 1901. Erased all previous history, and did an initial draft. Every year real players import and there is a rookie draft. Financials are set to real times, however I am doing it as a "modern day" replay where the settings are set to modern day times. I'm thru 1910 and everything has been fine except for 2 seasons, 2 players.

For the most part, the stats are what you would see in modern day MLB. For example, league leaders are approx:
Batting Avg - .350-.375 (slightly higher than real life but there were quite a few players early on with very high contact ratings so I am ok with this).
HRs - 40-50 (fine with this)
RBI - 130-150 (again a little high but fine)
SB - 40-50 (fine)
ERA - 2.00-2.25 (little lower than modern day but it's really the top end pitchers with numbers like these not the norm)
Wins - 18-22 (fine)
Saves - 35-45 (fine)
K's - 275-300 (fine)

Again, those are the league leaders, not your average player.

Except this happened...

1904 - Ed Delahanty (playing for the NY Highlanders):
Hit .389 - 74 HR - 185 RBI - 140 Runs scored
2nd highest BA - .348
2nd highest HR - 42
2nd highest RBI - 128
2nd highest Runs - 132

1908 - Harry Lumley (also playing for the Highlanders so maybe a stadium issue?):
Hit .395 - 81 HR - 208 RBI - 161 Runs scored
2nd highest BA - .368
2nd highest HR - 51
2nd highest RBI - 142
2nd highest Runs - 134

So those 2 seasons have obviously stuck out like sore thumbs. A) because they set then broke the record in all 4 major categories, and B) because they were so much higher than anyone else that season

So my question is should I be worried this will continue every few years with a player? It's not like these guys were slouches, they had great years before and after. Their ratings didn't spike. They just had really really gaudy statistical seasons, way better than the 2nd place finishers in every category
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:49 PM   #2
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NO worries and records are made to be BROKEN ..... I love it when what we think is unbreakable today to be broken.
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Old 07-10-2015, 09:46 PM   #3
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NO worries and records are made to be BROKEN ..... I love it when what we think is unbreakable today to be broken.
Even though no one was close to them in terms of production? Don't mind the un breakable records but 30 more hr/50 more rbi than 2nd place scares me
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Old 07-11-2015, 03:19 AM   #4
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i have found modernizing pre 1920 seasons to be real hard to do, especially to get home runs right.
To just put in a modern season will get what you are seeing.
What I do is each year I half seasons. Actual year + 1.10 divide by 2
Say 1901 was .020 HR per game + 1.10 (my base) divide by 2 gives .65

I know take the 1901 actual home runs, divide by .20 multiply by .65 and I get a very reasonable number where players will hit in the 40's odd time a 50 but that is about it
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Old 07-11-2015, 01:18 PM   #5
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i have found modernizing pre 1920 seasons to be real hard to do, especially to get home runs right.
To just put in a modern season will get what you are seeing.
What I do is each year I half seasons. Actual year + 1.10 divide by 2
Say 1901 was .020 HR per game + 1.10 (my base) divide by 2 gives .65

I know take the 1901 actual home runs, divide by .20 multiply by .65 and I get a very reasonable number where players will hit in the 40's odd time a 50 but that is about it
I believe my brain just exploded
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Old 07-11-2015, 04:32 PM   #6
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I believe my brain just exploded
The formula is, to put it as concisely as possible:

(Real HR factor / 2) + 0.55
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