Rehab assignments counting against roster limits

[mdtwnkfey]

When an MLB team sends a player to the minors for rehab, that player does not count against the roster limit for the minor league club. In game if you have a roster limit, you have to clear a space on a minor league roster somehow to accommodate a rehabber.

This probably means nothing to people who don't have roster limits on their minor league teams, but it's a fact. Example: Josh Hamilton is currently out on rehab to AAA Round Rock, along with Martin Perez, Neftali Feliz, Ross Ohlendorf, and Delino DeShields,. Jr. Their official roster has 33 players on it. 25 active players on the roster, Hamilton and the others (5) listed as "rehab", and 3 on the DL.

Why do rehab assignments count against roster limits in game? IRL, teams seem to be able to have a limitless amount of players on rehab assignments on top of their 25 men.

[BIG17EASY]

Originally Posted by mdtwnkfey

When an MLB team sends a player to the minors for rehab, that player does not count against the roster limit for the minor league club. In game if you have a roster limit, you have to clear a space on a minor league roster somehow to accommodate a rehabber.

This probably means nothing to people who don't have roster limits on their minor league teams, but it's a fact. Example: Josh Hamilton is currently out on rehab to AAA Round Rock, along with Martin Perez, Neftali Feliz, Ross Ohlendorf, and Delino DeShields,. Jr. Their official roster has 33 players on it. 25 active players on the roster, Hamilton and the others (5) listed as "rehab", and 3 on the DL.

Why do rehab assignments count against roster limits in game? IRL, teams seem to be able to have a limitless amount of players on rehab assignments on top of their 25 men.

I know and explanation was given a few versions ago, but I forget what it was. In any case, the way I deal with it is setting my minor league roster limits to 1-2 players above the real life limits, thus allowing some flexibility. It doesn't bother me that the AI minor league teams have an extra player or two.

(For those staunchly against roster limits, I've read all the threads about it and I've never seen the problems others have had.)

[RchW]

If you go above 25 in the minors you will often have room due to the minor league DL. For example I set a 30-man limit in AAA and AA but right now each team has only 29 spots filled due to players on the DL. I have a ML DL player almost ready for rehab so he can be put on the AAA roster with no problems.

[mdtwnkfey]

Originally Posted by RchW

If you go above 25 in the minors you will often have room due to the minor league DL. For example I set a 30-man limit in AAA and AA but right now each team has only 29 spots filled due to players on the DL. I have a ML DL player almost ready for rehab so he can be put on the AAA roster with no problems.

But those players on the DL don't count against the active roster limit you set of 30? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.

I've also never seen the problems with limits and I think it's necessary to keep the AI controlled a bit so it doesn't stockpile on teams, and makes releases.

I've noticed by following the Brewers' (my fave team) minor league system, they put players on a sort of "phantom" DL sometimes, a taxi-squad if you like. These guys aren't actually hurt, usually they're the third-string catcher. On a board I read they call it "third string catcheritis". They stay with the team and get activated if someone actually does get hurt. They might be officially listed as being in extended spring training earlier in the season, or might get moved there off the MiLB team roster in a pure paper move.

I do this: using commissioner mode I give them a one day injury, DL them for 7 days, sometimes keeping them there more if everyone else is healthy. It's a lot of work but it's not really cheating, ya know?

Anyway, would be good to hear why the rehab assignments in OOTP operate this way.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by mdtwnkfey

But those players on the DL don't count against the active roster limit you set of 30? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.

Players on the DL at any level do not count on the active roster because they are not on it. You can see the numbers change on the rosters & transactions screen. I'm surprised you don't know this.

Originally Posted by mdtwnkfey

Anyway, would be good to hear why the rehab assignments in OOTP operate this way.

As long as it operates reasonably, which I think it does, what's the problem? I'm not dismissing your concerns but it's not a big deal unless you limit yourself to a small roster.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by RchW

Players on the DL at any level do not count on the active roster because they are not on it. You can see the numbers change on the rosters & transactions screen. I'm surprised you don't know this.

Yes, but a player on a rehab assignment in OOTP is not on the DL. Therein lies the problem.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Yes, but a player on a rehab assignment in OOTP is not on the DL. Therein lies the problem.

But I wasn't discussing that.

[Rain King]

This is an "issue" they know about and is currently working as intended. Sure, it would be nice if in future versions this would change to mirror how it works in real life, but for the most part it currently serves its' purpose as is with only very minor work-arounds.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by RchW

But I wasn't discussing that.

But it does go directly to the issue mentioned in the opening post.

Originally Posted by Rain King

This is an "issue" they know about and is currently working as intended. Sure, it would be nice if in future versions this would change to mirror how it works in real life, but for the most part it currently serves its' purpose as is with only very minor work-arounds.

I would argue basic roster rules should work as they do in real life so as to avoid the kind of unintended issues that OOTP's implementation can cause.

[mdtwnkfey]

Originally Posted by RchW

Players on the DL at any level do not count on the active roster because they are not on it. You can see the numbers change on the rosters & transactions screen. I'm surprised you don't know this.

I misunderstood what you were saying in your initial post, which was "each team has only 29 spots filled due to players on the DL". I read that as "I have 29 roster spots filled including players on the DL" as though 25 was the general number you aimed for and 29 included DL'd players. Anyway...

Originally Posted by RchW

As long as it operates reasonably, which I think it does, what's the problem? I'm not dismissing your concerns but it's not a big deal unless you limit yourself to a small roster.

If nothing else, mimicking real life moves would save me some time .

[RchW]

Originally Posted by mdtwnkfey

If nothing else, mimicking real life moves would save me some time .

I take a rehab ready player put him in AAA via drag and drop, then ask AI to set up complete team (AAA). Takes about 15-20 sec.

[mdtwnkfey]

Originally Posted by RchW

I take a rehab ready player put him in AAA via drag and drop, then ask AI to set up complete team (AAA). Takes about 15-20 sec.

That's you. I'm very picky about how I set up my minor league affiliates. I don't let the AI do it.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by mdtwnkfey

That's you. I'm very picky about how I set up my minor league affiliates. I don't let the AI do it.

That has nothing to do with a time complaint. You're moving the goalposts.

[mdtwnkfey]

Originally Posted by RchW

That has nothing to do with a time complaint. You're moving the goalposts.

As I said before, it would save ME some time! Just me and only me, probably