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Old 06-23-2015, 04:11 PM   #1
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If this is my progress so far, I must be doing something right?



Ok. So one of my attempts to try and wrap my head around how the game works. So far I have been pestering the boards about stuff so I apologise for that. Here is my current progress so far. I haven't played a single game out but just simmed things. What I did was look at the OBP and see how things are. When I started I checked last year's OBP then after a series I rechecked OBP and arrange my lineup depending on the OBP.

Also the way I arrange my line-up since I read it from somewhere I cant remember that I will pick the one with the top 3 OBP and place on 1, 2 and 4 then place the 4th and 5th rank in OBP in 3 and 5 then from best to worst.

So does that mean I must be doing something right?

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Old 06-23-2015, 04:24 PM   #2
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Wow! Billy Bean is on line one!
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:25 PM   #3
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Wow! Billy Bean is on line one!
Sadly I fired him here. I still have to get the book on friday and read it. Like I don't even know how the heck I did it. Just looked at the stats, clicked OBP then arrange them. Heck I don't even know who the players are.
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:27 PM   #4
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Post a picture of your batters and pitchers stats.
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Pitching stats 1



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Old 06-23-2015, 04:37 PM   #7
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In one of my games, the Twins got off to a similar start in 2021 being 22-1 after their first 23 games. Unfortunately, I'm the White Sox.
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:38 PM   #8
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Remember this when you go 15-40!
Nooo! I am hoping I wouldn't lose. I will see how the season will go. What I fear is I wouldn't be able to assess what is wrong with my team and try to fix it.
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:41 PM   #9
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possibly. it's more likely a good sign than a bad sign. you've played mostly weaker teams, too (as far as ootp 16 is concerned).

there are many ideas about lineups. i would look at data similar to this bad example: RBI by batting order position » Baseball-Reference Blog » Blog Archive

that is too small of a sample and it's based on rbi's and not opportunities, but i found with a quick google search just now. looking at an individual team for 1 year is useless - not even sure why the guy plotted those lines. AL or NL would be important for this particular research.

find out where the rbi slots are in the order and make sure those guys are the best at driving in runs. sometimes a good hitter can outweight a guy that hits mid 200's and has more power. but in geraral, power weighs more for those spots in the order. it's like understanding the odds of craps and betting on the best probable outcome. trust the larger averages and don't be fooled by randomness of a small sample.

i've seen the tigers start out 42-10, once. if you replay 2015 over and over they probably average mid-80's wins, give or more likely take. regardless, 15-2 is an awesome start.

even 162 games is on the small side as a sample. you can look up the equation to calculate level of confidence based on probability of success and sample size or something like that. i'm sure you can find many sites with all this stuff caclulated already. you don't need to know the equations, you just need to know what they mean (no pun intended).

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Old 06-23-2015, 04:50 PM   #10
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I have had a good 20 games out of the box, never this good. Grey is a great pitcher, Hahn is ok. You have some good OBP but I see the star of the team in real life, Vogt is not doing that hot. And the big Zobrist is hurt.
I still think it was a good move by the Rays.
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possibly. it's more likely a good sign than a bad sign. you've played mostly weaker teams, too (as far as ootp 16 is concerned).

there are many ideas about lineups. i would look at data similar to this bad example: RBI by batting order position » Baseball-Reference Blog » Blog Archive

that is too small of a sample and it's based on rbi's and not opportunities, but i found with a quick google search just now. looking at an individual team for 1 year is useless - not even sure why the guy plotted those lines. AL or NL would be important for this particular research.

find out where the rbi slots are in the order and make sure those guys are the best at driving in runs. sometimes a good hitter can outweight a guy that hits mid 200's and has more power. but in geraral, power weighs more for those spots in the order. it's like understanding the odds of craps and betting on the best probable outcome. trust the larger averages and don't be fooled by randomness of a small sample.

i've seen the tigers start out 42-10, once. if you replay 2015 over and over they probably average mid-80's wins, give or more likely take. regardless, 15-2 is an awesome start.

even 162 games is on the small side as a sample. you can look up the equation to calculate level of confidence based on probability of success and sample size or something like that. i'm sure you can find many sites with all this stuff caclulated already. you don't need to know the equations, you just need to know what they mean (no pun intended).
Any suggestions on references regarding sabermetrics and stuff? I do keep in mind that the stats I am looking at will vary and also I have to look at things like how many games is the stats based on. I kind of know the basics but the deeper decisions and setting strategies and trades are something that I don't have a clue about doing and I mean at least knowing what I have to do.
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Great place to start!

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Any suggestions on references regarding sabermetrics and stuff? I do keep in mind that the stats I am looking at will vary and also I have to look at things like how many games is the stats based on. I kind of know the basics but the deeper decisions and setting strategies and trades are something that I don't have a clue about doing and I mean at least knowing what I have to do.
well i was still doing some googling. don't limit yourself to 'sabermetrics' (Society for American Baseball Research). you can find awesome stuff from anyone who can handle an advanced spreadsheet and uses common sense.

this guy references a gentleman that weighted opportunities of the 24 situations where a batter comes up with someone on base - roughly.

The opportunity of RBI ? The Hardball Times

he does a good job of sqashing people that say it's a worthless stat. yes, as it is calculated now, an 'rbi' stat has severe limitations and cannot be used to compare 2 players. but the situations they result from are supremely important to understand.

i saw a much better graph than my previous post here:

The Effect of Batting Order on R and RBI Production | Smart Fantasy Baseball

just becareful with stats. understand how the data is gathered. is a human's subjectivity involved or is the data more objective?

i.e. war should not be used as an absolute value. it has limitiations.

use many tools. they won't always give the same and/or correct answer. if you find one that does, you better go to las vegas and make some money.

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well i was still doing some googling. don't limit yourself to 'sabermetrics' (Society for American Baseball Research). you can find awesome stuff from anyone who can handle an advanced spreadsheet and uses common sense.

this guy references a gentleman that weighted opportunities of the 24 situations where a batter comes up with someone on base - roughly.

The opportunity of RBI ? The Hardball Times

he does a good job of sqashing people that say it's a worthless stat. yes, as it is calculated now, an 'rbi' stat has severe limitations and cannot be used to compare 2 players. but the situations they result from are supremely important to understand.

i saw a much better graph than my previous post here:

The Effect of Batting Order on R and RBI Production | Smart Fantasy Baseball

just becareful with stats. understand how the data is gathered. is a human's subjectivity involved or is the data more objective?

i.e. war should not be used as an absolute value. it has limitiations.

use many tools. they won't always give the same and/or correct answer. if you find one that does, you better go to las vegas and make some money.
Cheers! So far I lost a series against Minnesota and I only won one game in that series. I will try and find the weaknesses on my team and try to trade. I don't have the feel for trading and looking for someone I want from other teams yet.

I will go through the links in the morning. The thing is I kinda like the stats in baseball. I just like going through the numbers but so far I don't know which ones to look out for. It makes me see that it isnt a guarantee that a player has some good ratings that he will be super good 100% of the time.

I am new to the game and fairly new to baseball and so not a single complete baseball game so if ever you got some more tips or links to different stuff I will greatly appreciate them and I will study them.
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Cheers! So far I lost a series against Minnesota and I only won one game in that series. I will try and find the weaknesses on my team and try to trade. I don't have the feel for trading and looking for someone I want from other teams yet.

I will go through the links in the morning. The thing is I kinda like the stats in baseball. I just like going through the numbers but so far I don't know which ones to look out for. It makes me see that it isnt a guarantee that a player has some good ratings that he will be super good 100% of the time.

I am new to the game and fairly new to baseball and so not a single complete baseball game so if ever you got some more tips or links to different stuff I will greatly appreciate them and I will study them.
Definitely - about ratings! i look for rating configurations of consistent players (table-setter or power or whatever type) and try to use that to identify my targets. you'll need at least 1000ab's to understand an offensive player's capabilities.

as far as research, i just google things like "rbi opportunity batting order" after the one page, i search about 'eRBI.' once you find some better identifying words, adjust the google searches. unfortunately, i don't have a library of bookmarks. i read it, assimilate it and move on.
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Oh. I got a question. How does the active roster and 40 man roster work? Like How can I swap some people from the 40 man and active roster and how do I remove people from it?

Let's say I claim one person from the waiver wire and he has to be assigned. He can't be added to my 40 man roster but he can be added to my 25 man roster. The problem is my 25 man roster doesnt have a vacant spot and only got a vacant spot when I moved one person to the Disabled List. Can anyone please explain to me the way the Rosters work?
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Oh. I got a question. How does the active roster and 40 man roster work? Like How can I swap some people from the 40 man and active roster and how do I remove people from it?

Let's say I claim one person from the waiver wire and he has to be assigned. He can't be added to my 40 man roster but he can be added to my 25 man roster. The problem is my 25 man roster doesnt have a vacant spot and only got a vacant spot when I moved one person to the Disabled List. Can anyone please explain to me the way the Rosters work?
You have to be on the 40 man to be on the active roster. You should be able to place him on the 40 man when you get the player, but I've never picked up a player from waivers before. Does he show up in the DFA after claiming him? Is your 40 man full?


On another note, you may want to go with wOBA instead of OBP. They are similar stats, but wOBA is a statistic that shows how well a player contributes each at-bat instead of how often a player reaches base.
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you can right click any player and under transactions context menu you will see add or remove from 40-man roster. you'll protect your older minor leaguers from the rule 5 draft this way. they have a '#' next to name (thats a pound sign, not a hashtag).

you get the best overview in the rosters page - depending on how many minor league teams you have. you can get the important ones visible along with mlb, 40man and whatever else you need visible at the time.

read up on the rules of the 40-man roster and what it entails at mlb.com. e.g. players with ml contracts must remain on the 40-man roster.

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