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Old 06-21-2015, 02:07 PM   #1
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And Now For Something Completely Different

It least I have never read of anyone else doing/trying this setup. Which is part of the point, has anyone else tried what I describe below?

First off, I have always wanted to replicate the old method of signing players, that is, by scouts with no draft. Also drafting players and minor leagues when I setup a fictional league with minor league cities just doesn't seem right--I mean where would Roanoke have its farm teams?

Due to exceptionally boring times at work, I came up with a plan to test. And it worked! So here now the test and its results.

1) Disable the draft. No one ever picked Babe Ruth, he signed with a local team.

2) No minor leagues, enable Reserve Rosters.

3) Now the tricky bit (that I am pleased works as well as it does). Enable the International draft, except with 100% USA player origins. So:

Default Player origin is 100% USA;
Generate International Free Agents = NONE
International Discoveries per team = A lot (about 16 per team) International Origin = 100% USA
Generate International Established FAs = NONE
Generate FAs from Indy leagues = NONE

So what each team now has is an Active roster, a Reserve Roster and an International complex. So think A team B team and C team. What I was worried about is that the AI would not move players from the International complex to the Reserve Roster before they hit 20. This test proved they do.

After nearly 50 seasons, the 16 teams in my fictional league have 25 man active rosters, 80 to 100 players on the Reserve Roster and around 40 young players in the International complex. In short, what I hoped for.

Every player now in the league has come through the Development complex.
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Old 06-21-2015, 02:25 PM   #2
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Wait, is this a historical league?
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Old 06-21-2015, 02:34 PM   #3
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Very interesting. Thanks.
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Old 06-21-2015, 03:39 PM   #4
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I've tried it. With 80-100 players in the reserve roster doesn't do to it for me. 3-4 times the size of the active roster on the reserve roster. Might as well have a minor league system which is basically what you're creating without having extra teams.

And (again for me) it's not team A, B, C. since it's only Team A with a reserve roster and a international complex.

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Old 06-22-2015, 11:03 AM   #5
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Wait, is this a historical league?
Fictional, of course.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:12 AM   #6
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Might as well have a minor league system which is basically what you're creating without having extra teams.
Ah, however the minor leagues will play games and that takes processing time. There is a huge difference in game speed without a minor league system. Therefore this type of game is much faster than a traditional one with minor leagues attached.

If it hadn't been for a two hour thunder storm, I would have processed the entire half-century while watching Virginia punch out Florida. That has appeal.

As to adding minor leagues, that could work, I suppose. I chose not to because the player discovery system has a maximum annual in-take of about 16 players. That does not seem like enough to stock a three or four level minors system. The current draft is 30 rounds, about twice what the game can produce using this method.
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Ah, however the minor leagues will play games and that takes processing time. There is a huge difference in game speed without a minor league system. Therefore this type of game is much faster than a traditional one with minor leagues attached.

If it hadn't been for a two hour thunder storm, I would have processed the entire half-century while watching Virginia punch out Florida. That has appeal.

As to adding minor leagues, that could work, I suppose. I chose not to because the player discovery system has a maximum annual in-take of about 16 players. That does not seem like enough to stock a three or four level minors system. The current draft is 30 rounds, about twice what the game can produce using this method.
As I said play it your way.

I don't use minors either but I use small reserve rosters.
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As I said play it your way.

I don't use minors either but I use small reserve rosters.
How small?
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How small?
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Fictional, of course.
Too bad. It would be interesting to see how the league would have developed differently with this change.
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Darn. I thought this was going to be an episode of Rocky and Bullwinkle.
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Darn. I thought this was going to be an episode of Rocky and Bullwinkle.
As for me, I expected the Spanish Inquisition.
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Too bad. It would be interesting to see how the league would have developed differently with this change.
Yes, it would.
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As for me, I expected the Spanish Inquisition.
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.
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Considering its title, this thread has a distinct lack of John Cleese.
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Leo this is an interesting idea - one thing I wonder though is the talent level of all those international discoveries. I know my experience is that you CAN find a top level prospect this way, overall I find a lot of unusable players for every good one. Wouldn't over time this method drag down the level of talent in the league?
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Leo this is an interesting idea - one thing I wonder though is the talent level of all those international discoveries. I know my experience is that you CAN find a top level prospect this way, overall I find a lot of unusable players for every good one. Wouldn't over time this method drag down the level of talent in the league?
yes it would
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