rehab assignments???

xx2khazard · 06-20-2015, 04:21 AM

do the rehab assignments serve a purpose in the game or is it just for show?

tcblcommish · 06-20-2015, 06:39 AM

Rehab assignments should do something. It helps shake off the rust from players if they have been on the IR for a while. A few games or a few starts should be good in triple a for the rust to be gone.

MarkInCincy · 06-20-2015, 06:40 AM

I believe it has some effect. I think of it as a short, in season, spring training. It 'knocks' the rust off, helps them get their timing/feel back.

ahunter5 · 06-21-2015, 01:00 PM

Is there a way to tell if/when the rust has been knocked off? Does the rest status or health status change? I haven't been able to find anything in my game -- just wondered how you can tell how long to leave a guy on a rehab assignment, or whether an assignment is necessary in the first place. Thanks!

RchW · 06-21-2015, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ahunter5

Is there a way to tell if/when the rust has been knocked off? Does the rest status or health status change? I haven't been able to find anything in my game -- just wondered how you can tell how long to leave a guy on a rehab assignment, or whether an assignment is necessary in the first place. Thanks!

I go 5 games for position players unless it is a long time (10-15 month) injury. Then I might go two weeks. For a pitcher 2-3 starts or a week 10 days for a relief pitcher. Longer injuries go longer.

I don't rehab 2-3 week injuries unless my roster benefits.

The Game · 06-21-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ahunter5

Is there a way to tell if/when the rust has been knocked off? Does the rest status or health status change? I haven't been able to find anything in my game -- just wondered how you can tell how long to leave a guy on a rehab assignment, or whether an assignment is necessary in the first place. Thanks!

It helps but depends on the player. Also depends on the type of injury. If you bring someone back from Tommy John in the middle ois a season without some rehab he will probably suck for a bit. Give hiom teh full amount of rehab time and he should do better. I had a P come back from Tommy John last season and pitched 2 starts at AAA on rehab then used him out of the pen for all of SEP and in the playoffs and he has a 1.17 ERA with 46 K in 29 IP. This season he is my #5 SP but only has a STA of 4 down from 7. (1-10 scale)

Hannibal05 · 06-22-2015, 12:48 PM

I haven't noticed a difference. It helps me with the roster spot especially if I've got someone who has to clear waivers before I can demote him to make room for the injured player.

rpriske · 06-22-2015, 12:59 PM

What Hannibal said...

I have found no difference whatsoever. I only use rehab as a stall if I don't want to activate the player just yet.

Assos · 06-22-2015, 01:18 PM

I have noticed on my longer stays on the DL, if I inject them right back in, they will tend to struggle for a week or two. If I have a productive player that filled in for them, they get the good old rehab, if not I just suffer and rest them at least once a week.

mdtwnkfey · 06-22-2015, 02:45 PM

Two things regarding rehab assignments:

1) I'm pretty sure the AI doesn't use them. So maybe there is no actual benefit other than postponing a roster decision.

2) If a player is placed on the DL in real-life, he can go out on a rehab assignment before his 15 (or 60) days on the DL has elapsed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen in game.

I guess whenever one of my players becomes healthy (his injury days are 0), he's already been on the DL his required amount of time, and I typically don't DL players who are going to be out for less than 2 weeks, give or take. If I put a guy on the 15-day who has an injury the game says will only keep him out say 8 days, can I send that guy out on a rehab assignment once that 8 days has passed?

norva13x · 06-22-2015, 05:01 PM

I play commish mode, just following the league from afar, and I have certainly seen the AI using rehab assignments.

Assos · 06-22-2015, 05:03 PM

I have seen Babe Ruth have 3 or 4 games in in AAA and he was not on my team.

Le Grande Orange · 06-22-2015, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mdtwnkfey

If a player is placed on the DL in real-life, he can go out on a rehab assignment before his 15 (or 60) days on the DL has elapsed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen in game.

OOTP handles rehab assignments backwards as compared to real life. In the real world, players on rehab assignment are still on the DL; in OOTP, the player comes off the DL and then can be sent on a rehab assignment prior to be reactivated. The game does it this way due to limitations within the game's coding.

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Originally Posted by Assos

I have seen Babe Ruth have 3 or 4 games in in AAA and he was not on my team.

In terms of historical accuracy, rehab assignments did not exist prior to 1981. (There was no DL at all prior to 1941, other than the NL experimenting with a DL rule for the 1915-16 seasons.)

SwedishChef · 06-22-2015, 06:08 PM

i've noticed, or perhaps imagined, that players that skip rehab in OOTP are more likely to reaggravate their injuries.

Tram2Whitaker · 06-22-2015, 07:40 PM

Helps smooth out roster moves, especially with pitchers.

byzeil · 06-22-2015, 09:00 PM

I don't know about increased chance of injury but along time ago (2010) Markus stated that rust comes into play in spring training and injuries of 14 days or longer. I guess this could have changed since OOTP11 (or whatever it was in 2010) but I doubt it has gone away.

Le Grande Orange · 06-22-2015, 09:24 PM

What would be interesting is to be able to look at the frequency and duration of real-life major league rehab assignments. That would help provide a useful reference.

ra7c7er · 06-22-2015, 09:40 PM

Yes rehab assignments do something when dealing with longer injuries. Devs had come on the forums and said as much.

And yes the AI uses rehab starts too.

mdtwnkfey · 06-22-2015, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

What would be interesting is to be able to look at the frequency and duration of real-life major league rehab assignments. That would help provide a useful reference.

I actually looked at this the past two years. It all depends on severity of injury of course, and whether or not there are any "setbacks". Generally for hitters the time is shorter and pitchers are likelier to use the full 30 days, as one may expect. I have this data all in a spreadsheet somewhere... I will post as I get a chance.

Cinnamon J. Scudworth · 06-24-2015, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mdtwnkfey

1) I'm pretty sure the AI doesn't use them. So maybe there is no actual benefit other than postponing a roster decision.

The AI definitely does use them.

06-20-2015, 04:21 AM	#1
xx2khazard Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 63	rehab assignments??? do the rehab assignments serve a purpose in the game or is it just for show?

06-20-2015, 06:40 AM	#3
MarkInCincy All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Cincinnait, OH (WestSider) Posts: 657	I believe it has some effect. I think of it as a short, in season, spring training. It 'knocks' the rust off, helps them get their timing/feel back. __________________ "A baseball fan has the digestive apparatus of a billy goat. He can, and does, devour any set of statistics with insatiable appetite and then nuzzles hungrily for more." - Sportswriter Arthur Daley "Who says there's an unemployment problem in this country? Just take the five percent unemployed and give them a baseball stat to follow." - Outfielder Andy Van Slyke

06-22-2015, 12:48 PM	#7
Hannibal05 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 35	I haven't noticed a difference. It helps me with the roster spot especially if I've got someone who has to clear waivers before I can demote him to make room for the injured player. __________________ "Baseball is the only field of endeavor where a man can succeed three times out of ten and be considered a good performer." --Ted Williams

06-22-2015, 12:59 PM	#8
rpriske Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Spencerville, ON, Canada Posts: 25,884	What Hannibal said... I have found no difference whatsoever. I only use rehab as a stall if I don't want to activate the player just yet. __________________ Rusty Priske Poet, Canadian, Baseball Fan ````````````````````````````````````````

06-22-2015, 07:40 PM	#15
Tram2Whitaker All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 619	Helps smooth out roster moves, especially with pitchers. __________________ 404'd!

06-20-2015, 06:39 AM	#2
tcblcommish Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 3,438	Rehab assignments should do something. It helps shake off the rust from players if they have been on the IR for a while. A few games or a few starts should be good in triple a for the rust to be gone.

06-21-2015, 01:00 PM	#4
ahunter5 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 25	Is there a way to tell if/when the rust has been knocked off? Does the rest status or health status change? I haven't been able to find anything in my game -- just wondered how you can tell how long to leave a guy on a rehab assignment, or whether an assignment is necessary in the first place. Thanks!

06-22-2015, 01:18 PM	#9
Assos All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Just on the fair side of the foul pole! Posts: 1,772	I have noticed on my longer stays on the DL, if I inject them right back in, they will tend to struggle for a week or two. If I have a productive player that filled in for them, they get the good old rehab, if not I just suffer and rest them at least once a week.

06-22-2015, 02:45 PM	#10
mdtwnkfey Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 301	Two things regarding rehab assignments: 1) I'm pretty sure the AI doesn't use them. So maybe there is no actual benefit other than postponing a roster decision. 2) If a player is placed on the DL in real-life, he can go out on a rehab assignment before his 15 (or 60) days on the DL has elapsed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen in game. I guess whenever one of my players becomes healthy (his injury days are 0), he's already been on the DL his required amount of time, and I typically don't DL players who are going to be out for less than 2 weeks, give or take. If I put a guy on the 15-day who has an injury the game says will only keep him out say 8 days, can I send that guy out on a rehab assignment once that 8 days has passed?

06-22-2015, 05:01 PM	#11
norva13x Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 476	I play commish mode, just following the league from afar, and I have certainly seen the AI using rehab assignments.

06-22-2015, 05:03 PM	#12
Assos All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Just on the fair side of the foul pole! Posts: 1,772	I have seen Babe Ruth have 3 or 4 games in in AAA and he was not on my team.

06-22-2015, 06:08 PM	#14
SwedishChef Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 109	i've noticed, or perhaps imagined, that players that skip rehab in OOTP are more likely to reaggravate their injuries.

06-22-2015, 09:00 PM	#16
byzeil Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NJ, US Posts: 2,006	I don't know about increased chance of injury but along time ago (2010) Markus stated that rust comes into play in spring training and injuries of 14 days or longer. I guess this could have changed since OOTP11 (or whatever it was in 2010) but I doubt it has gone away.

06-22-2015, 09:24 PM	#17
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,644	What would be interesting is to be able to look at the frequency and duration of real-life major league rehab assignments. That would help provide a useful reference.

06-22-2015, 09:40 PM	#18
ra7c7er All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,098	Yes rehab assignments do something when dealing with longer injuries. Devs had come on the forums and said as much. And yes the AI uses rehab starts too.