Lied about age - Page 2

ra7c7er · 04-24-2015, 01:15 PM

I wouldn't doubt their are a handful to a dozen players right now from the Dominican, Cuban, and South American areas that aren't known by their real ages playing in the MLB right now.

Even with teams increased background checks. Most of those areas don't keep good records. Many times birth certificates aren't given at birth and sometimes not at all until people are much older. I'd guess their are players in the MLB or minors who don't even know their age isn't correct.

NCBeachBum · 05-02-2015, 03:45 AM

Well, here's one I've never seen before. A guy I just took in the Rule V is out for 3 months with "Unknown head and back injuries" after falling off of his roof while working on it in the offseason. He's in critical condition.

NCBeachBum · 05-02-2015, 03:47 AM

A couple of days later it was updated to a year with the note that his career might be over, as he has been upgraded from critical to serious but has a broken back.

Hrycaj · 05-02-2015, 09:19 AM

I don't have any proof but I always thought Carlos Guillen was the oldest looking 30 year old I had ever seen! Probably didn't help that he had the knees of a 80 year old.

NCBeachBum · 05-04-2015, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NCBeachBum

A couple of days later it was updated to a year with the note that his career might be over, as he has been upgraded from critical to serious but has a broken back.

Just to give this some nice closure, he did return the next year, hit .221/.304/.415 (103 OPS+, .308 wOBA) while playing mostly second, had 3.0 WAR, and walked away with both a Gold Glove and a Rookie of the Year trophy.

Dyzalot · 05-04-2015, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NCBeachBum

Just to give this some nice closure, he did return the next year, hit .221/.304/.415 (103 OPS+, .308 wOBA) while playing mostly second, had 3.0 WAR, and walked away with both a Gold Glove and a Rookie of the Year trophy.

Those aren't typical ROY kind of stats. Did the league feel sorry for him and give him the award or was the stable of rookies that year just not very good?

NCBeachBum · 05-04-2015, 11:31 PM

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Those aren't typical ROY kind of stats. Did the league feel sorry for him and give him the award or was the stable of rookies that year just not very good?

It was a pretty weak year. The guy who finished second was a RF who hit .260/.306/.393 with 3.9 WAR and 642 PAs.

Amazin69 · 05-05-2015, 09:21 AM

How soon we forget:

Juan Carlos Oviedo, aka "Leo Nunez".

Even Americans used to pull this stuff back in the day. In Ball Four, Jim Bouton writes about how his former teammate Roland Sheldon had told the Yankees he was 19 years old when he attended his first big-league camp. The Yanks made a big deal of the "teen sensation" and gave him the most promising rookie award, and Sheldon made the big club. Just as the team was headed north, the Yanks discovered that Sheldon had spent three years in college and three years in the army and was actually 25, but they had no way to call off the publicity machine and kept him on the roster, anyhow. And, as Bouton wrote, if he'd told them the truth from the beginning (about being 25), he never even would have gotten a look.

05-02-2015, 03:45 AM	#22
NCBeachBum All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Topsail Island, NC, USA Posts: 1,049	Well, here's one I've never seen before. A guy I just took in the Rule V is out for 3 months with "Unknown head and back injuries" after falling off of his roof while working on it in the offseason. He's in critical condition. __________________ And ain't that a shame, shame, shame Shame, shame, the way you do Oh, it's a shame, shame, shame Shame, shame on you

05-02-2015, 03:47 AM	#23
NCBeachBum All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Topsail Island, NC, USA Posts: 1,049	A couple of days later it was updated to a year with the note that his career might be over, as he has been upgraded from critical to serious but has a broken back. __________________ And ain't that a shame, shame, shame Shame, shame, the way you do Oh, it's a shame, shame, shame Shame, shame on you

05-02-2015, 09:19 AM	#24
Hrycaj All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,752	I don't have any proof but I always thought Carlos Guillen was the oldest looking 30 year old I had ever seen! Probably didn't help that he had the knees of a 80 year old. __________________ Click on my signature to read about the great game of baseball in Normington.

04-24-2015, 01:15 PM	#21
ra7c7er All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,098	I wouldn't doubt their are a handful to a dozen players right now from the Dominican, Cuban, and South American areas that aren't known by their real ages playing in the MLB right now. Even with teams increased background checks. Most of those areas don't keep good records. Many times birth certificates aren't given at birth and sometimes not at all until people are much older. I'd guess their are players in the MLB or minors who don't even know their age isn't correct.

05-05-2015, 09:21 AM	#28
Amazin69 Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,218 Infractions: 0/4 (4)	How soon we forget: Juan Carlos Oviedo, aka "Leo Nunez". Even Americans used to pull this stuff back in the day. In Ball Four, Jim Bouton writes about how his former teammate Roland Sheldon had told the Yankees he was 19 years old when he attended his first big-league camp. The Yanks made a big deal of the "teen sensation" and gave him the most promising rookie award, and Sheldon made the big club. Just as the team was headed north, the Yanks discovered that Sheldon had spent three years in college and three years in the army and was actually 25, but they had no way to call off the publicity machine and kept him on the roster, anyhow. And, as Bouton wrote, if he'd told them the truth from the beginning (about being 25), he never even would have gotten a look.