MLBM Historic Rookie Classes...

whouse85 · 04-10-2015, 08:18 PM

Kind of sucks that when you start in the 1919 season that the rookies for the upcoming year aren't the real rookies from 1920 and so on. Would be sweet to actually replay baseball history entirely. I guess you could edit the rookies like I do anyway.

Each year I got through and edit each class. If not there will be 400 players with the last name Rodriguez.

Other than stale names in the draft classes and the fact that the update has hit the apple scene yet, this game is amazing.

phillupi · 04-10-2015, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by whouse85

Kind of sucks that when you start in the 1919 season that the rookies for the upcoming year aren't the real rookies from 1920 and so on. Would be sweet to actually replay baseball history entirely. I guess you could edit the rookies like I do anyway.

Each year I got through and edit each class. If not there will be 400 players with the last name Rodriguez.

Other than stale names in the draft classes and the fact that the update has hit the apple scene yet, this game is amazing.

Did you buy the 1920 Season? If you did the rookies should be real.

McGuiser · 04-11-2015, 12:27 AM

And be sure to buy that 1920 season early in your 1919 play, so it is there when the game looks for it. If the game does not find that list of historical rookies, it will generate fictional players ahead of the draft (not the day of the draft).

whouse85 · 04-11-2015, 08:54 PM

Oh snap.....so you can literally replay baseball history entirely here?

Habsfan18 · 04-11-2015, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by whouse85

Oh snap.....so you can literally replay baseball history entirely here?

Yes. You can buy every season from 1901 through 2014 for $19.99 I believe it is.

The rookies will import automatically each off season and be available in the draft.

phillupi · 04-11-2015, 09:57 PM

The only issue is the players will be available in the draft so will not go on their original teams but every rookie that played is available. I started a game in 1960 and I check players periodically that I never heard of in the baseball reference and there they are. They may have played only 1 major league game but they're included.

Every once in awhile I see a player tearing it up and I don't recognize him and he is in the baseball reference again. He just blossomed better in iOOTP than in real life. Pretty cool stuff.

One year I was doing well and traded for Willie Davis for speed and to solidify my outfield. He did well down the stretch and we made it to the Round 3 (WS) and he had a career ending injury in Game 1. Ouch.

Habsfan18 · 04-11-2015, 11:57 PM

The only thing with playing historical mode in the mobile games though, is that if you start in the early years with the low number of teams, it will always stay that way.

If they found a way to automatically expand the league like in OOTP, that would be incredible.

whouse85 · 04-12-2015, 02:45 AM

Wow. That is the most awesome thing I have ever heard.

whouse85 · 04-12-2015, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Habsfan18

The only thing with playing historical mode in the mobile games though, is that if you start in the early years with the low number of teams, it will always stay that way.

If they found a way to automatically expand the league like in OOTP, that would be incredible.

If it's uploading the next season, wouldn't it automatically increase the teams? If that's the case, then there is no point at all to starting before the Rays and D-Backs were added. That kind of kills the whole idea. I figured it was too good to be true. Glad I didn't spend $20 on those seasons.

whouse85 · 04-12-2015, 04:22 AM

Game went from a candidate for greatest game iver ever played to a bust in seconds.

wodi · 04-12-2015, 09:34 AM

There are many ppl who solely play historical and absolutely love it.

My knock on it is that rookies come in based on their rookie year and not the year they started. So for instance when Nomar enters the league he is already a top shortstop, he doesn't have to go through the minors.

I think the idea is great and I know why ppl love it, I just wish they'd come in as their 18, 19, 20 year old selves and have to develop in the minors. It's more like a free agency draft that drafted amateur players.

wodi · 04-12-2015, 09:35 AM

You should try it before you decide it's already a bust. You could just buy a couple of seasons to start, they're only a dollar.

Habsfan18 · 04-12-2015, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by whouse85

If it's uploading the next season, wouldn't it automatically increase the teams? If that's the case, then there is no point at all to starting before the Rays and D-Backs were added. That kind of kills the whole idea. I figured it was too good to be true. Glad I didn't spend $20 on those seasons.

If you want a true historical experience, OOTP 16 will blow your mind. Keep in mind MLB Manager, while very in depth for a mobile game, is just that..a mobile game. OOTP on the other hand, doesn't really have any limitations. Hell, you can even play random debut if you want and have Pedro Martinez play in the 60's or Babe Ruth play in the 80's and 90's etc..

phillupi · 04-12-2015, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wodi

There are many ppl who solely play historical and absolutely love it.

My knock on it is that rookies come in based on their rookie year and not the year they started. So for instance when Nomar enters the league he is already a top shortstop, he doesn't have to go through the minors.

I think the idea is great and I know why ppl love it, I just wish they'd come in as their 18, 19, 20 year old selves and have to develop in the minors. It's more like a free agency draft that drafted amateur players.

I understand your thoughts and agree somewhat but you have to remember this game doesn't have minor leaguers except for the current season. If you were to play say the 1999 season all the players available would be only players that played in 1999 on a major league roster. On the small scale that it is I am amazed that it does import the following year of new players that appeared in 2000. No minor leaguers. I'm ok with that.take it for what it is and enjoy.

My only gripe is there is no ability to expand either automatically or manually to the league by adding of teams. This creates a draft problem when those original 8 teams per league gets to 10, 12 and 15 as some good players get drafted and never make the team in the continuing league.

My opinion only. Take it for what it's worth.

wodi · 04-12-2015, 12:35 PM

I think it's a great mode to have and it is very popular. It's impressive that the game can pull it off.

Personally I play the game for the team building aspect, which is predicated on the minor leagues and player development.

I haven't enjoyed the historical game for the reason above, it just kinda ruins it for me when the top prospects just jump right into the league. I don't even like in the non historical game when top prospects are 22 and 23 and are drafted and play in the majors by the end of that year. It rarely happens in the majors (yes it did this year with Brandon Finnegan of the Royals).

I guess I just wish the minor leagues mattered more and wasn't just a list of players.

phillupi · 04-12-2015, 12:40 PM

Understood. We all have our reasons for playing and human nature we always want more. Either way "Great game for the money."

whouse85 · 04-12-2015, 08:27 PM

The game is amazing as far as playing it from 2015 forward, only thing I do not like is the generated names, they are brutal and very, VERY, repetitive. Rodriguez is a third of the names in game 20 years down. So I pull up websites and rename the entire draft. So the game is truly amazing. But historical mode with only 8 teams is pretty pointless. So I won't be doing the historical mode.

I've thought of purchasing OOTP 16, but I have a few questions.....I can see the game on paper looks like the greatest game ever made, especially for us sim guys. I cannot wait for the football game, BTS.

My questions are....

What are the recommended system requirements for OOTP 16? My current laptop is decent, I do plan on upgrading soon.

Also, doing the historical mode in OOTP where the teams can be expanded, do the draft classes still only include the guys on MLB rosters? How does that work?

whouse85 · 04-12-2015, 08:31 PM

Example. In the desktop version, do the draft classes include the players from that actual draft have the players from that draft....or the year that they cracked the majors.

JoseB · 04-13-2015, 02:27 PM

Best $20 I've spent in awhile. I love being able to start simulating anywhere in baseball history and have the rookies be real players. It's fun to watch what "would have been" if Ken Griffey Jr. played on the Phillies and never got injured.

BradC · 04-13-2015, 08:23 PM

OOTP 16 system requirements:

OOTP Baseball - Downloads

During historical play, players can show up one of three ways:

•*They can show up on their actual teams at the start of their MLB rookie years.

•*They can show up in the draft at the start of their MLB rookie years.

•*They can randomly show up throughout history.

They don't show up the year they were drafted in real life, however. For example, if a guy was drafted in 1967 and was an MLB rookie in 1970, he'll show up in 1970, and he'll be rated according to that season.

04-10-2015, 08:18 PM	#1
whouse85 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2014 Location: Gator Country Posts: 47	MLBM Historic Rookie Classes... Kind of sucks that when you start in the 1919 season that the rookies for the upcoming year aren't the real rookies from 1920 and so on. Would be sweet to actually replay baseball history entirely. I guess you could edit the rookies like I do anyway. Each year I got through and edit each class. If not there will be 400 players with the last name Rodriguez. Other than stale names in the draft classes and the fact that the update has hit the apple scene yet, this game is amazing.

04-11-2015, 12:27 AM	#3
McGuiser Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 363	And be sure to buy that 1920 season early in your 1919 play, so it is there when the game looks for it. If the game does not find that list of historical rookies, it will generate fictional players ahead of the draft (not the day of the draft).

04-11-2015, 08:54 PM	#4
whouse85 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2014 Location: Gator Country Posts: 47	Oh snap.....so you can literally replay baseball history entirely here?

04-11-2015, 09:57 PM	#6
phillupi All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 814	The only issue is the players will be available in the draft so will not go on their original teams but every rookie that played is available. I started a game in 1960 and I check players periodically that I never heard of in the baseball reference and there they are. They may have played only 1 major league game but they're included. Every once in awhile I see a player tearing it up and I don't recognize him and he is in the baseball reference again. He just blossomed better in iOOTP than in real life. Pretty cool stuff. One year I was doing well and traded for Willie Davis for speed and to solidify my outfield. He did well down the stretch and we made it to the Round 3 (WS) and he had a career ending injury in Game 1. Ouch.

04-11-2015, 11:57 PM	#7
Habsfan18 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,249	The only thing with playing historical mode in the mobile games though, is that if you start in the early years with the low number of teams, it will always stay that way. If they found a way to automatically expand the league like in OOTP, that would be incredible.

04-12-2015, 02:45 AM	#8
whouse85 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2014 Location: Gator Country Posts: 47	Wow. That is the most awesome thing I have ever heard.

04-12-2015, 04:22 AM	#10
whouse85 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2014 Location: Gator Country Posts: 47	Game went from a candidate for greatest game iver ever played to a bust in seconds.

04-12-2015, 09:34 AM	#11
wodi All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 535	There are many ppl who solely play historical and absolutely love it. My knock on it is that rookies come in based on their rookie year and not the year they started. So for instance when Nomar enters the league he is already a top shortstop, he doesn't have to go through the minors. I think the idea is great and I know why ppl love it, I just wish they'd come in as their 18, 19, 20 year old selves and have to develop in the minors. It's more like a free agency draft that drafted amateur players.

04-12-2015, 09:35 AM	#12
wodi All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 535	You should try it before you decide it's already a bust. You could just buy a couple of seasons to start, they're only a dollar.

04-12-2015, 12:35 PM	#15
wodi All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 535	I think it's a great mode to have and it is very popular. It's impressive that the game can pull it off. Personally I play the game for the team building aspect, which is predicated on the minor leagues and player development. I haven't enjoyed the historical game for the reason above, it just kinda ruins it for me when the top prospects just jump right into the league. I don't even like in the non historical game when top prospects are 22 and 23 and are drafted and play in the majors by the end of that year. It rarely happens in the majors (yes it did this year with Brandon Finnegan of the Royals). I guess I just wish the minor leagues mattered more and wasn't just a list of players.

04-12-2015, 12:40 PM	#16
phillupi All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 814	Understood. We all have our reasons for playing and human nature we always want more. Either way "Great game for the money."

04-12-2015, 08:27 PM	#17
whouse85 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2014 Location: Gator Country Posts: 47	The game is amazing as far as playing it from 2015 forward, only thing I do not like is the generated names, they are brutal and very, VERY, repetitive. Rodriguez is a third of the names in game 20 years down. So I pull up websites and rename the entire draft. So the game is truly amazing. But historical mode with only 8 teams is pretty pointless. So I won't be doing the historical mode. I've thought of purchasing OOTP 16, but I have a few questions.....I can see the game on paper looks like the greatest game ever made, especially for us sim guys. I cannot wait for the football game, BTS. My questions are.... What are the recommended system requirements for OOTP 16? My current laptop is decent, I do plan on upgrading soon. Also, doing the historical mode in OOTP where the teams can be expanded, do the draft classes still only include the guys on MLB rosters? How does that work?

04-12-2015, 08:31 PM	#18
whouse85 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2014 Location: Gator Country Posts: 47	Example. In the desktop version, do the draft classes include the players from that actual draft have the players from that draft....or the year that they cracked the majors.

04-13-2015, 02:27 PM	#19
JoseB Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 25	Best $20 I've spent in awhile. I love being able to start simulating anywhere in baseball history and have the rookies be real players. It's fun to watch what "would have been" if Ken Griffey Jr. played on the Phillies and never got injured.

04-13-2015, 08:23 PM	#20
BradC All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: northern CA Posts: 1,874	OOTP 16 system requirements: OOTP Baseball - Downloads During historical play, players can show up one of three ways: •They can show up on their actual teams at the start of their MLB rookie years. •They can show up in the draft at the start of their MLB rookie years. •*They can randomly show up throughout history. They don't show up the year they were drafted in real life, however. For example, if a guy was drafted in 1967 and was an MLB rookie in 1970, he'll show up in 1970, and he'll be rated according to that season.