It takes a few minutes to show me offers if I put a player on the trade block

Albion Hero · 03-23-2015, 10:25 PM

Is this normal? It just took over 5 minutes and I didn't even get a single offer for the guy I put on the block.

majesty95 · 03-23-2015, 11:54 PM

Depends on the processor in your computer. I have a 4 Ghz processor and it took me about a minute. Processor speed (I believe) is the biggest factor in game speed performance.

DustinthePOWERHOUSE · 03-24-2015, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by majesty95

Depends on the processor in your computer. I have a 4 Ghz processor and it took me about a minute. Processor speed (I believe) is the biggest factor in game speed performance.

I thought RAM was the deciding factor for speed in the game?

RchW · 03-24-2015, 08:11 AM

The trade block is a static list. I've never seen offers for players on the TB be generated spontaneously.

Are you shopping players instead?

Padreman · 03-24-2015, 09:54 AM

Ok what is the didference between trading block and shopping a player? Are they not the same thing?

Padreman · 03-24-2015, 10:03 AM

I guess what i don't understand is why won't a team be willing to trade for a player on the trading block but that same team will trade for that player you shop around

Ruthian23 · 03-24-2015, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RchW

The trade block is a static list. I've never seen offers for players on the TB be generated spontaneously.

Are you shopping players instead?

I think he means shopping players. My computer doesn't take minutes to shop players, but I have noticed that that process seems to take quite a while compared to others in the game. It can be frustrating to shop a player, wait 30-45 seconds, and then have only one or two (or no) matches to look at. Not sure if the process can be optimized at all speed-wise, but if so, that would definitely be nice.

By the way, I imagine the process is pretty complex (I'm not a programmer, but I imagine it basically trying a one for one trade with every player in the league and returning the ones that would be accepted on the spot within those 30-45 seconds, which is pretty impressive), but I'm just comparing the time it takes to some of the other equally impressive things the game does more quickly.

Markus Heinsohn · 03-24-2015, 10:17 AM

Well, the AI has to evaluate thousands of possible trades when you shop a player around. This naturally takes a while...

Imperialism32 · 03-24-2015, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Padreman

I guess what i don't understand is why won't a team be willing to trade for a player on the trading block but that same team will trade for that player you shop around

I think of it as trading block being passive ("this guy is available if you want to offer") while shopping players is active ("I'm looking to trade this guy, what would you give me?).

IanIachimoe · 03-24-2015, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Padreman

Ok what is the didference between trading block and shopping a player? Are they not the same thing?

trade block is a list of players that are available on your team. you should get the occasional email with a trade proposal for the players listed. It's not necessarily the guys you are actively shopping, but a list of those available in the right deal.

'shopping a player' is the equivalent of you burning up the phone lines, calling around to all the other GMs in an attempt to trade a specific player. therefore the response is immediate.

'shopping a player' is the best way to initiate a trade imo. shop player, find which teams are interested & build the trade from there.

RchW · 03-24-2015, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Padreman

Ok what is the didference between trading block and shopping a player? Are they not the same thing?

Passive v active as others have said. The other critical difference is that "shop player" does not bring back anything but players the other team wants to dump. It's not a baseball trade, it's a get rid of players deal.

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Originally Posted by Padreman

I guess what i don't understand is why won't a team be willing to trade for a player on the trading block but that same team will trade for that player you shop around

Because the logic is different. As we say above, shop player is a way to dump players for the AI.

philliesphan26 · 03-24-2015, 10:48 AM

Yeah it's all about how good your computer is. I have 8GB RAM and an i7 in my laptop and it takes about 5-10 seconds per player when I shop them around.

Fyrestorm3 · 03-24-2015, 11:06 AM

Computer strength is the key factor, plus it also depends on how big your league is. The more options the game has to process, the longer it's going to take.

Ruthian23 · 03-24-2015, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by philliesphan26

Yeah it's all about how good your computer is. I have 8GB RAM and an i7 in my laptop and it takes about 5-10 seconds per player when I shop them around.

I also find it depends on how appealing the player is. It's actually faster for me (maybe 5-10 seconds) when there are a bunch of offers for a player, but slow when there are no offers.

rpriske · 04-23-2015, 02:11 PM

Shopping is RELATIVELY slow, but not unreasonably so.

I am more 'concerned' with the fact that shopping players seems to get less results than it used to.

Nobody is interested in Brett Cecil? Nobody? For anybody?

OOTPSimmer · 04-23-2015, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruthian23

I also find it depends on how appealing the player is. It's actually faster for me (maybe 5-10 seconds) when there are a bunch of offers for a player, but slow when there are no offers.

Agreed, which seems backwards on how it should probably be.

bazeall · 04-23-2015, 07:58 PM

If someone has a top of the line processor, the game will return shop around results before you shop a player.

03-23-2015, 10:25 PM	#1
Albion Hero Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 18	It takes a few minutes to show me offers if I put a player on the trade block Is this normal? It just took over 5 minutes and I didn't even get a single offer for the guy I put on the block.

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03-24-2015, 10:48 AM	#12
philliesphan26 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 254	Yeah it's all about how good your computer is. I have 8GB RAM and an i7 in my laptop and it takes about 5-10 seconds per player when I shop them around.

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Fyrestorm3 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, Massachusetts Posts: 2,928	Computer strength is the key factor, plus it also depends on how big your league is. The more options the game has to process, the longer it's going to take.

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rpriske Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Spencerville, ON, Canada Posts: 25,793	Shopping is RELATIVELY slow, but not unreasonably so. I am more 'concerned' with the fact that shopping players seems to get less results than it used to. Nobody is interested in Brett Cecil? Nobody? For anybody? __________________ Rusty Priske Poet, Canadian, Baseball Fan ````````````````````````````````````````

04-23-2015, 07:58 PM	#17
bazeall Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 190	If someone has a top of the line processor, the game will return shop around results before you shop a player.