The OOTP 16 Feedback Thread - Page 8

The Game · 03-20-2015, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gamefan1978

Got my goals for the Cubs:

Don't suck completely this season. (I can't believe that's in the game.)
Upgrade at Center Field this season.
Reach the World Series in the next 5 seasons.

They left off 2 zero's after the 5.

malichai11 · 03-20-2015, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Exodor

As a life-long Royals fan - yes. That team wasn't that good they just got hot at the right time and gave us all an amazing ride.

Hahaha, after my complaining about the pre-season predictions I won the division by 8 games.

1908_Cubs · 03-20-2015, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by injury log

1908 - everything you used to do in OOTP15 should still work in OOTP16. So there must be some kind of setting that's wrong somewhere. I gather you're not in Commissioner mode and only 'Acting As' your team? That's one reason this would happen. If that's not it, then I'd suggest glancing at your Manager Settings one more time and confirming they all look okay. And if those look okay, I'm not sure what the issue is, but you should still be able to play how you used to, so hopefully someone else has an idea!

And...I'm an idiot. I've got it as acting as and not as hired. What an embarrassing foray into the OOTP Forums. Do forgive the idiocy (if it helps any I've had an incredibly long week).

Been playing this for years, online, in communities, solo, and this is the first posts I've made. How stupid.

You're the bomb. Thanks guys for dealing with stupidity on my part to not notice what in the hell I'm clicking on.

injury log · 03-20-2015, 10:23 PM

No problem man, that's what the forums are for! Happy to hear you got the issue sorted out.

JPL86 · 03-20-2015, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Exodor

Are we no longer able to see coach ratings? When I go to a coach's page or look at the list of availablecoaches I don't see a way to see "teach hitting", "teach pitchng", etc.

As league commish if I go into the editor I can see the raw numbers but that seems like cheating.

Transferred my long-running league into OOTP16 without a hitch except one - the reliever I've been holding off signing upped his demand from ~$4M in OOTP15 to ~$14M in OOTP16 - and of course my owner has made signing him a goal

I too have noticed this. I have always used these ratings when hiring, extending, or making any changes in my personnel.

Is this meant to be like this? Or was it an oversight that will be corrected in a patch?

Either way, does anyone know a good workaround?

Thanks.

Lukas Berger · 03-20-2015, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JPL86

I too have noticed this. I have always used these ratings when hiring, extending, or making any changes in my personnel.

Is this meant to be like this? Or was it an oversight that will be corrected in a patch?

Either way, does anyone know a good workaround?

Thanks.

It's WAD. The point is to be more concerned about abut the managers' styles and personalities than about the ratings. Under the new system, those things actually matter much more than ratings do.

1908_Cubs · 03-20-2015, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by injury log

No problem man, that's what the forums are for! Happy to hear you got the issue sorted out.

You're tellin' me. The release of '16 is what kept me sane today and not cussing out little kiddos (I teach. It's nearly spring break. They've gone crazy pants).

Now that I've got it runnin' correctly it's pretty wonderful. Love the new little trophy box addition. Really neat visualization

Sweed · 03-20-2015, 11:21 PM

Worked all day and came home to install and look around so haven't played out a game yet. Game looks fantastic but I have to start with the only complaint I have and will then follow up with the good.

The only negative thing so far..
Using the dark skin the standings page all runs together and is hard to separate divisions at a glance. This is due to the division names line being a light gray that blends in instead of being a color that contrasts and shows up against the rest of the field. Other than that one thing I love the dark skin and how easy it is on my eyes. I hope this is something they will consider "fixing" in a patch.

Some of the good only had a couple of hours to look around..
D'load and install without issue, as usual. Everything looks crisp, clear and easy to read. Love the MLB license and how it really adds to the first impression one gets from OOTP. It just says quality and should impress any new comers to the game.

Imported my game from 15, that was started in 2002 with v4, without issue. Fast too, less than 10 minutes for a long running league.

My one concern was being able to use the new MLB licensed uniforms, logos, etc to replace my modded ones. It was an easy process going to each team setting and having the game "auto" find the licensed unis, logos, caps. For 4 or 5 teams the game wouldn't auto load the graphics so I had to manually get them using the "find" option. Really ended up being an easy process.

Hall of Fame plaques and award icons on player pages are as cool as advertised.

Manually moved in my stadium pics and all worked perfectly.

Still so much to look at but have to work tomorrow too so this review is limited by the short amount of time I've had with the game. Can't wait to get back to it.

JD396 · 03-21-2015, 03:09 AM

I just dinked around for a few hours, and then GM'ed the Twins through the first 43 games, when I noticed my two bench infielders had been healthy and on the roster all season and accrued a combined 14 plate appearances, exclusively as subs for players who got injured. The entire depth chart was filled out with "If starter tired" which doesn't get them any playing time at all. I looked around and the pattern followed across the league and up and down the minors, with only the occasional player scheduled to be subbed out once a week or less.

Not sure what I'm missing here! It can be fussy trying to get the AI to use the roster exactly the way you want them to, but I've never seen it that dramatic before. Usually it's because you're carrying a crummy hitter who only plays 1B in no-DH leagues that end up with odd numbers like that.

Steve509 · 03-21-2015, 03:45 AM

The OOTP baseball games actually made me enjoy and renewed my interest in baseball again. I basically was so burnt out from baseball by the time I turned 16 from playing all year, with very little breaks(I also wasn't able to try other sports at the time). My dad pretty much pushed me past the breaking point and I just stopped playing. I told myself after that I wouldn't make any effort to try to play or even follow baseball. Once that happened I turned my interest towards hockey and never looked back until around 2011.

Now during the years I lost interest I would sporadically check out the Cubs box scores, but never really serious about following them(even when they were doing well in 2007 and 2008). In 2011 I was on an Eastside Hockey Manager 07(Hockey Sim) forum searching for updated rosters, I stumbled across a post talking about Franchise Hockey Manager which gave a link to OOTP forums. After seeing that FHM was still in beta, I started to read up on the baseball game, and much to my surprise I became interested in OOTP 13(which was due to come out in May 2012 I think?). This was the first time anything baseball related drew my interest in about 14 years.

Once I started playing OOTP 13, I instantly fell in love with the game(the amount of depth OOTP has is absolutely amazing). It was everything I wanted in a game, which was being the GM and/or manager so I could run the team how I wanted it. Sometime in the Summer of 2012 I watched my first baseball game in probably 4 or 5 years. By the time Fall came around, I had actually watched probably 70% of the Cubs games and was following the teams players and prospects. Fast forward to now, after playing OOTP 13, 14, 15 and now 16 I turned from a casual fan(2012) to a dedicated fan. I plan on going to my first baseball game(and possibly more after that) in probably 16 years, and that is strictly because of OOTP baseball. If I had never found this game I would have never considered anything baseball to become part of my life.

Has OOTP caused anyone else to enjoy baseball more(or have a similar influence because of this series)? That's how OOTP renewed my interest, and made me fall in love with the game again.

doors11 · 03-21-2015, 05:55 AM

downloasing and installed ootp 16 worked great. copied my photos, jerseys, ballparksa nd caps folder from ootp15 to ootp 16 then imported my 1965.league into ootp16. everything seemms to work great. had to re do my jerseys and caps is all.

so far love the new version

thanks for ootp16

Markus Heinsohn · 03-21-2015, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JD396

I just dinked around for a few hours, and then GM'ed the Twins through the first 43 games, when I noticed my two bench infielders had been healthy and on the roster all season and accrued a combined 14 plate appearances, exclusively as subs for players who got injured. The entire depth chart was filled out with "If starter tired" which doesn't get them any playing time at all. I looked around and the pattern followed across the league and up and down the minors, with only the occasional player scheduled to be subbed out once a week or less.

Not sure what I'm missing here! It can be fussy trying to get the AI to use the roster exactly the way you want them to, but I've never seen it that dramatic before. Usually it's because you're carrying a crummy hitter who only plays 1B in no-DH leagues that end up with odd numbers like that.

Do you have position player fatigue disabled maybe? I just ran a test here, and things work as expected here, players get the occasional start when the starter at the position is tired.

dunningrb · 03-21-2015, 06:27 AM

What happened to the score ticker on the League Home Screen?

CobaltJays · 03-21-2015, 09:06 AM

I like the changes that have been made to the coaching system, so kudos to Matt on that. However, I strongly disagree on one choice that was made in this area.

When the user has the role set as General Manager, the "Minor League Lineups/Depth Charts/Pitching Staffs" drop-down box is greyed out. In real life, a team's front office has a great deal of control over such things. If a front office wants a prospect to be used at a certain position or in a particular role, that player will be used in that manner. For example, if a team drafts a shortstop but wants to groom him as a second baseman long-term, that player's minor league managers will be instructed to use that player at second base. The ability to dictate how minor league players are used is essential for a front office and its long-term planning for the major league roster. Minor league managers simply don't have the level of autonomy that OOTP16 currently gives them.

Setting minor league rosters also becomes needlessly challenging, as it's hard to know how a minor league manager will decide to use the players he's given. A minor league club could wind up with three backup outfielders but no backup infielders because the minor league manager has decided to start some of his infielders in the outfield. The ability to set minor league roles goes hand-in-hand with setting rosters and signings/promotions/demotions.

If a GM can potentially dictate major league roles, the GM should also have the ability to do so at the minor league level. I really think this needs to be addressed in an update.

This is just my personal view, but if playing in Commissioner Mode, I don't think anything should be greyed out, even if serving as GM only. Complete control should mean complete control.

All in all, great work on the game by Markus, Matt, Andreas, Daniela, Aurelio, and everyone else on the team. If this is my biggest gripe, the game is in pretty good shape.

Ruthian23 · 03-21-2015, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CobaltJays

I like the changes that have been made to the coaching system, so kudos to Matt on that. However, I strongly disagree on one choice that was made in this area.

When the user has the role set as General Manager, the "Minor League Lineups/Depth Charts/Pitching Staffs" drop-down box is greyed out. In real life, a team's front office has a great deal of control over such things. If a front office wants a prospect to be used at a certain position or in a particular role, that player will be used in that manner. For example, if a team drafts a shortstop but wants to groom him as a second baseman long-term, that player's minor league managers will be instructed to use that player at second base. The ability to dictate how minor league players are used is essential for a front office and its long-term planning for the major league roster. Minor league managers simply don't have the level of autonomy that OOTP16 currently gives them.

Setting minor league rosters also becomes needlessly challenging, as it's hard to know how a minor league manager will decide to use the players he's given. A minor league club could wind up with three backup outfielders but no backup infielders because the minor league manager has decided to start some of his infielders in the outfield. The ability to set minor league roles goes hand-in-hand with setting rosters and signings/promotions/demotions.

If a GM can potentially dictate major league roles, the GM should also have the ability to do so at the minor league level. I really think this needs to be addressed in an update.

This is just my personal view, but if playing in Commissioner Mode, I don't think anything should be greyed out, even if serving as GM only. Complete control should mean complete control.

All in all, great work on the game by Markus, Matt, Andreas, Daniela, Aurelio, and everyone else on the team. If this is my biggest gripe, the game is in pretty good shape.

I actually agree with your point and thought of it yesterday. Perhaps if there was a way to lock a certain prospect in a certain position/lineup spot (in the minors) while letting the computer managers work around that, it would be better.

Matt Arnold · 03-21-2015, 09:38 AM

Playing as GM-only, you can still use the "force start" to force him to play at a certain position. Between that and promoting or demoting certain players, you should be able to do almost everything you want.

Mike D · 03-21-2015, 09:47 AM

Suggestion for transactions. When in manager mode, we get emails in regards to negotiations. How about an email when our GM makes a move, stating who goes up and goes down.

CobaltJays · 03-21-2015, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Playing as GM-only, you can still use the "force start" to force him to play at a certain position. Between that and promoting or demoting certain players, you should be able to do almost everything you want.

It would be easier to simply have the same level of control I had before. The "force start" option is good for occasional use, but it's a multi-click process and it's easy to forget that you've assigned a player a certain strategy. It's possible to have conflicting strategies for players without knowing it, particularly after the user has made some promotions and/or demotions. Taking away the ability to set minor league lineups and pitching staffs just makes things needlessly complicated. I honestly don't understand why I can't have that option, particularly when it's possible to still have control of those aspects of the major league team (depending on who my manager is).

I realize that I can make myself GM and Manager, but I'm not really a full manager when I play OOTP. I only play out parts of games, usually the last two or three innings. I love the idea of having a manager with his own personality, but losing the ability to set minor league lineups and pitching staffs is a deal breaker for me. I'll have no choice but to serve as both GM and Manager, even though I don't want to.

I don't mean to be a proverbial wet blanket on this issue, but users should have the ability to micromanage their minor league teams if they choose to do so, especially if they're in Commissioner Mode. Please give this option back to users in the next update.

Habsfan18 · 03-21-2015, 11:20 AM

LOVING it so far.

One thing I would like to see, is a trophy badge on player profiles for all-star game MVP.

Déjà Bru · 03-21-2015, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by lukasberger

It's WAD. The point is to be more concerned about abut the managers' styles and personalities than about the ratings. Under the new system, those things actually matter much more than ratings do.

Actually, I prefer this. The old coaching system was too tedious and routine.

I did not know or care who the coaches were except that they had green and blue ratings.

The players are one thing; they are there to produce satisfying statistics and results. For that reason, I paid attention to them, of course. The coaches were another thing; they were there just to shade those statistics and results a bit.

Now, with styles and personalities, coaches may matter more to me.

One thing for sure is that I am turning coaching back on in my game for the first time in several versions of OOTPB.

03-21-2015, 03:09 AM	#149
JD396 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: MSP Posts: 23	I just dinked around for a few hours, and then GM'ed the Twins through the first 43 games, when I noticed my two bench infielders had been healthy and on the roster all season and accrued a combined 14 plate appearances, exclusively as subs for players who got injured. The entire depth chart was filled out with "If starter tired" which doesn't get them any playing time at all. I looked around and the pattern followed across the league and up and down the minors, with only the occasional player scheduled to be subbed out once a week or less. Not sure what I'm missing here! It can be fussy trying to get the AI to use the roster exactly the way you want them to, but I've never seen it that dramatic before. Usually it's because you're carrying a crummy hitter who only plays 1B in no-DH leagues that end up with odd numbers like that. Last edited by JD396; 03-21-2015 at 03:15 AM.

03-21-2015, 03:45 AM	#150
Steve509 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2012 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 121	The OOTP baseball games actually made me enjoy and renewed my interest in baseball again. I basically was so burnt out from baseball by the time I turned 16 from playing all year, with very little breaks(I also wasn't able to try other sports at the time). My dad pretty much pushed me past the breaking point and I just stopped playing. I told myself after that I wouldn't make any effort to try to play or even follow baseball. Once that happened I turned my interest towards hockey and never looked back until around 2011. Now during the years I lost interest I would sporadically check out the Cubs box scores, but never really serious about following them(even when they were doing well in 2007 and 2008). In 2011 I was on an Eastside Hockey Manager 07(Hockey Sim) forum searching for updated rosters, I stumbled across a post talking about Franchise Hockey Manager which gave a link to OOTP forums. After seeing that FHM was still in beta, I started to read up on the baseball game, and much to my surprise I became interested in OOTP 13(which was due to come out in May 2012 I think?). This was the first time anything baseball related drew my interest in about 14 years. Once I started playing OOTP 13, I instantly fell in love with the game(the amount of depth OOTP has is absolutely amazing). It was everything I wanted in a game, which was being the GM and/or manager so I could run the team how I wanted it. Sometime in the Summer of 2012 I watched my first baseball game in probably 4 or 5 years. By the time Fall came around, I had actually watched probably 70% of the Cubs games and was following the teams players and prospects. Fast forward to now, after playing OOTP 13, 14, 15 and now 16 I turned from a casual fan(2012) to a dedicated fan. I plan on going to my first baseball game(and possibly more after that) in probably 16 years, and that is strictly because of OOTP baseball. If I had never found this game I would have never considered anything baseball to become part of my life. Has OOTP caused anyone else to enjoy baseball more(or have a similar influence because of this series)? That's how OOTP renewed my interest, and made me fall in love with the game again. Last edited by Steve509; 03-21-2015 at 10:48 AM.

03-21-2015, 06:27 AM	#153
dunningrb Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2010 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 154	What happened to the score ticker on the League Home Screen? __________________ -- Rodney Dunning

03-21-2015, 09:47 AM	#157
Mike D Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In a van, down by the river Posts: 2,802	Suggestion for transactions. When in manager mode, we get emails in regards to negotiations. How about an email when our GM makes a move, stating who goes up and goes down. __________________ Sometimes the best laid plans will never get you laid the way you plan.

03-20-2015, 10:23 PM	#144
injury log Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 9,162	No problem man, that's what the forums are for! Happy to hear you got the issue sorted out.

03-20-2015, 11:21 PM	#148
Sweed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 6,608	Worked all day and came home to install and look around so haven't played out a game yet. Game looks fantastic but I have to start with the only complaint I have and will then follow up with the good. The only negative thing so far.. Using the dark skin the standings page all runs together and is hard to separate divisions at a glance. This is due to the division names line being a light gray that blends in instead of being a color that contrasts and shows up against the rest of the field. Other than that one thing I love the dark skin and how easy it is on my eyes. I hope this is something they will consider "fixing" in a patch. Some of the good only had a couple of hours to look around.. D'load and install without issue, as usual. Everything looks crisp, clear and easy to read. Love the MLB license and how it really adds to the first impression one gets from OOTP. It just says quality and should impress any new comers to the game. Imported my game from 15, that was started in 2002 with v4, without issue. Fast too, less than 10 minutes for a long running league. My one concern was being able to use the new MLB licensed uniforms, logos, etc to replace my modded ones. It was an easy process going to each team setting and having the game "auto" find the licensed unis, logos, caps. For 4 or 5 teams the game wouldn't auto load the graphics so I had to manually get them using the "find" option. Really ended up being an easy process. Hall of Fame plaques and award icons on player pages are as cool as advertised. Manually moved in my stadium pics and all worked perfectly. Still so much to look at but have to work tomorrow too so this review is limited by the short amount of time I've had with the game. Can't wait to get back to it.

03-21-2015, 05:55 AM	#151
doors11 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Creswell Posts: 633	downloasing and installed ootp 16 worked great. copied my photos, jerseys, ballparksa nd caps folder from ootp15 to ootp 16 then imported my 1965.league into ootp16. everything seemms to work great. had to re do my jerseys and caps is all. so far love the new version thanks for ootp16

03-21-2015, 09:06 AM	#154
CobaltJays All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 706	I like the changes that have been made to the coaching system, so kudos to Matt on that. However, I strongly disagree on one choice that was made in this area. When the user has the role set as General Manager, the "Minor League Lineups/Depth Charts/Pitching Staffs" drop-down box is greyed out. In real life, a team's front office has a great deal of control over such things. If a front office wants a prospect to be used at a certain position or in a particular role, that player will be used in that manner. For example, if a team drafts a shortstop but wants to groom him as a second baseman long-term, that player's minor league managers will be instructed to use that player at second base. The ability to dictate how minor league players are used is essential for a front office and its long-term planning for the major league roster. Minor league managers simply don't have the level of autonomy that OOTP16 currently gives them. Setting minor league rosters also becomes needlessly challenging, as it's hard to know how a minor league manager will decide to use the players he's given. A minor league club could wind up with three backup outfielders but no backup infielders because the minor league manager has decided to start some of his infielders in the outfield. The ability to set minor league roles goes hand-in-hand with setting rosters and signings/promotions/demotions. If a GM can potentially dictate major league roles, the GM should also have the ability to do so at the minor league level. I really think this needs to be addressed in an update. This is just my personal view, but if playing in Commissioner Mode, I don't think anything should be greyed out, even if serving as GM only. Complete control should mean complete control. All in all, great work on the game by Markus, Matt, Andreas, Daniela, Aurelio, and everyone else on the team. If this is my biggest gripe, the game is in pretty good shape.

03-21-2015, 09:38 AM	#156
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,719	Playing as GM-only, you can still use the "force start" to force him to play at a certain position. Between that and promoting or demoting certain players, you should be able to do almost everything you want.

03-21-2015, 11:20 AM	#159
Habsfan18 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,245	LOVING it so far. One thing I would like to see, is a trophy badge on player profiles for all-star game MVP.