Promotion/Demotion History

PSUColonel · 12-20-2014, 07:31 PM

As part of the player history log, I feel promotion and demotion dates should be included. Any thoughts?

Bluenoser · 12-20-2014, 07:51 PM

They used to be tracked a number of versions ago - quite a while back.

There was a strong movement to have them removed because a players history page starts to over flow with lines of data pretty quick.

The page still can get quite full, but I'm glad these are no longer part of it.

If they were added back in, I would hope they would receive their own tab. They would still create a cluster on the "general" & "complete" history though.

PSUColonel · 12-20-2014, 08:20 PM

Yes...another tab would be fine...or filters....but to me, as a GM this is an important part of player history in terms of "when" a player was at a particular level.

Bluenoser · 12-20-2014, 09:24 PM

I don't worry about exact dates. A quick glance at his stats history tells me when he was at what level and how many games he played there. The # of games & ensuing results is more important to me then the actual dates he was there.

I don't see the significance of the exact dates - what exactly would be their importance?

PSUColonel · 12-21-2014, 12:08 AM

progression....e.g. did they come up, then have to go back down only to be brought back up again?

Bluenoser · 12-21-2014, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

progression....e.g. did they come up, then have to go back down only to be brought back up again?

And? This tells you what about their development? That they bounced up and down before they finally made it.

Then what - how is that info important?

This is unnecessary info that would only clutter up the player history screen.

RchW · 12-21-2014, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

progression....e.g. did they come up, then have to go back down only to be brought back up again?

That has more to do with options being available than talent. We've had the same discussion regarding ST. Players with options left will be sent down first as teams don't want to risk losing other assets.

PSUColonel · 12-21-2014, 11:27 AM

I mean say between AAA and AA

RchW · 12-21-2014, 12:50 PM

That's even less important. As Bluenoser said you can look at games played at each level if it really matters. Also consider that a player may be promoted and demoted due to promotion and/or injury and recovery and/or demotion of other players so there may be no development based reasons involved. For example a starting SS at AA may be promoted to be the backup to the backup SS in AAA now playing for the reasons described above.

jpeters1734 · 12-21-2014, 03:00 PM

I like it! I also feel like transactions should be split from general

gosensgo101 · 12-28-2014, 06:41 AM

I wouldn't really care much for minor league promotions/demotions but I would like to see promotions and demotions to and from the major league team in a player's history.

12-20-2014, 07:31 PM	#1
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,139	Promotion/Demotion History As part of the player history log, I feel promotion and demotion dates should be included. Any thoughts?

12-20-2014, 07:51 PM	#2
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,483	They used to be tracked a number of versions ago - quite a while back. There was a strong movement to have them removed because a players history page starts to over flow with lines of data pretty quick. The page still can get quite full, but I'm glad these are no longer part of it. If they were added back in, I would hope they would receive their own tab. They would still create a cluster on the "general" & "complete" history though. Last edited by Bluenoser; 12-20-2014 at 07:53 PM.

12-20-2014, 09:24 PM	#4
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,483	I don't worry about exact dates. A quick glance at his stats history tells me when he was at what level and how many games he played there. The # of games & ensuing results is more important to me then the actual dates he was there. I don't see the significance of the exact dates - what exactly would be their importance? Last edited by Bluenoser; 12-20-2014 at 09:27 PM.

12-21-2014, 12:50 PM	#9
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	That's even less important. As Bluenoser said you can look at games played at each level if it really matters. Also consider that a player may be promoted and demoted due to promotion and/or injury and recovery and/or demotion of other players so there may be no development based reasons involved. For example a starting SS at AA may be promoted to be the backup to the backup SS in AAA now playing for the reasons described above. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

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12-20-2014, 08:20 PM	#3
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,139	Yes...another tab would be fine...or filters....but to me, as a GM this is an important part of player history in terms of "when" a player was at a particular level.

12-21-2014, 12:08 AM	#5
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,139	progression....e.g. did they come up, then have to go back down only to be brought back up again?

12-21-2014, 11:27 AM	#8
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,139	I mean say between AAA and AA

12-28-2014, 06:41 AM	#11
gosensgo101 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 231	I wouldn't really care much for minor league promotions/demotions but I would like to see promotions and demotions to and from the major league team in a player's history.