Anyone have a file?

Logan2Government · 07-21-2003, 06:10 PM

Does anyone have a file that makes the game not so harsh on old players. I mean, man, when players turn 35 their ratings drop way too much no matter who it is. Usually in my single player careers, the yanks and braves (teams that should be dominant) have a crappy season the first year because the core of those teams are old guys and they take a huge hit in ratings usually mid season. This is just sorta annoying, so i was wondering if anyone had a file or something that changed the game.

Steve Kuffrey · 07-21-2003, 06:31 PM

You are probably basing this on a very small sample, try simming 40 or 50 years looking at the players OVERALL and not just one team or set of players. The game was tested over many, many multiple seasons and the player development was quite accurate and realistic in how careers lasted and stats accumlated.

The only was to change this is to get v3 or 4 of the game and play it, nothing will change this in v5.

EvanW · 07-21-2003, 07:49 PM

As I posted in a different thread, this does not happen to all players. In one of my leagues, a guy just had his best year at age 39, leading the league in average, and followed it up with his second best year at age 40. Most guys in OOTP5 decline around 37 or 38, but the same holds true in real life.

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Evan

Steve Kuffrey · 07-21-2003, 07:52 PM

This area is not perfect in OOTP but it is much closer to RL than it has ever been.

EvanW · 07-21-2003, 09:11 PM

Agreed!

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Evan

dougk62 · 07-21-2003, 09:26 PM

I understand how things work now. I think maybe what people have a problem with is the unknown factor involved. It would seem like that as a player gets older, ones scouts would at least have some idea as to how likely a player is to decline. Maybe some sort of hint a year or two early that a player is beginning to lose it. Right now it is a guessing game. It seems like contract demands for older players are the same as they are for younger players. These older players are demanding contracts for multiple years and large dollars. When they decline at 38 right after signing a large contract, we the consumer feel cheated. Maybe they need to have a feature which will force these players into retirement following the decline. There is nothing wrong with having the palyers decline. Give us a clue as to when it will occur and don't burben us with the contracts when it does and maybe we will feel a little better when it happens.

Steve Kuffrey · 07-21-2003, 09:31 PM

But IRL do GM's or coaches know when this is going to happen to a player? Well, there maybe some clues but not always and hey IRL guys sign huge contracts only to get crap out of a player so I don't feel like this is something that needs to be added to the game. Besides, there are "some" clues to when it may happen:

-age
-injuries
-scouting reports can change(I believe) w/o ratings hits(not certain though).

akw4572 · 07-21-2003, 09:51 PM

Ken Griffey Jr. anyone?

07-21-2003, 06:10 PM	#1
Logan2Government Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 26	Anyone have a file? Does anyone have a file that makes the game not so harsh on old players. I mean, man, when players turn 35 their ratings drop way too much no matter who it is. Usually in my single player careers, the yanks and braves (teams that should be dominant) have a crappy season the first year because the core of those teams are old guys and they take a huge hit in ratings usually mid season. This is just sorta annoying, so i was wondering if anyone had a file or something that changed the game.

07-21-2003, 06:31 PM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	You are probably basing this on a very small sample, try simming 40 or 50 years looking at the players OVERALL and not just one team or set of players. The game was tested over many, many multiple seasons and the player development was quite accurate and realistic in how careers lasted and stats accumlated. The only was to change this is to get v3 or 4 of the game and play it, nothing will change this in v5. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

07-21-2003, 07:52 PM	#4
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	This area is not perfect in OOTP but it is much closer to RL than it has ever been. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

07-21-2003, 09:26 PM	#6
dougk62 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tonganoxie, KS Posts: 304	I understand how things work now. I think maybe what people have a problem with is the unknown factor involved. It would seem like that as a player gets older, ones scouts would at least have some idea as to how likely a player is to decline. Maybe some sort of hint a year or two early that a player is beginning to lose it. Right now it is a guessing game. It seems like contract demands for older players are the same as they are for younger players. These older players are demanding contracts for multiple years and large dollars. When they decline at 38 right after signing a large contract, we the consumer feel cheated. Maybe they need to have a feature which will force these players into retirement following the decline. There is nothing wrong with having the palyers decline. Give us a clue as to when it will occur and don't burben us with the contracts when it does and maybe we will feel a little better when it happens. __________________ NABA - Calgary Wolfpack JOBL - Jacksonville Express Creator of Offensive Value Rating Reports

07-21-2003, 09:31 PM	#7
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	But IRL do GM's or coaches know when this is going to happen to a player? Well, there maybe some clues but not always and hey IRL guys sign huge contracts only to get crap out of a player so I don't feel like this is something that needs to be added to the game. Besides, there are "some" clues to when it may happen: -age -injuries -scouting reports can change(I believe) w/o ratings hits(not certain though). __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

07-21-2003, 07:49 PM	#3
EvanW Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 68	As I posted in a different thread, this does not happen to all players. In one of my leagues, a guy just had his best year at age 39, leading the league in average, and followed it up with his second best year at age 40. Most guys in OOTP5 decline around 37 or 38, but the same holds true in real life. -- Evan

07-21-2003, 09:11 PM	#5
EvanW Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 68	Agreed! -- Evan

07-21-2003, 09:51 PM	#8
akw4572 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,601	Ken Griffey Jr. anyone?