Some SERIOUS issues with Manager Mode

r2917 · 07-21-2003, 11:45 AM

Manager mode sucks.

Almost every year I DESTROY the league in the reg season and then lose in the first round. This past year I lost to a team that had 37 fewer wins than I did!!! I won the first game and then bam, lost 3 straight. The Tigers (i am the red sox) then went on to get swept by the Yanks in the next round. I was ranked #1 in every major cateogry to boot. My reg season record was 122-40!!!!

This mode has somer serious flaws. WTF, did they think that offers a challenge to it? So what, a team can kill during 162 games every year and then suddenly suck in the playoffs? Riiiiight. Sheesh.

Oh and how come when players come up for contract extensions 98% of the time they ask what I can give them but don't fire me out a number? That's silly.

I like the game but this crap is garbage.

Guess it is time to go back to the normal franchise mode because the manager mode is obviously flawed like there is no tomorrow.

jaxmagicman · 07-21-2003, 11:48 AM

Maybe you have players on your team that are not clutch.

r2917 · 07-21-2003, 11:55 AM

No my players don't have issues wiht their clutch performance.

Maybe, just maybe the reason this happens ALL THE DAMN TIME (I have a franchise that is 40 years in) is because the mdoe is a POS and they decided that having a team do well in the playoffs after a good reg season would make too much sense.

My career manager record is 3985-2485 for a winning % of .615. I avg 99 wins a damn year. My playoff record is 148-143 for a useless .509 %. PATHETIC. I have won only 7 world series rings and I bet I have been booted from the playoffs in the first round about 20 times, usually when my team DOMINATES the whole elague in the reg season

I am 63 years old in the game...I just hope I die soon so I can quit this useless mode.

Henry · 07-21-2003, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by r2917
No my players don't have issues wiht their clutch performance.

Maybe, just maybe the reason this happens ALL THE DAMN TIME (I have a franchise that is 40 years in) is because the mdoe is a POS and they decided that having a team do well in the playoffs after a good reg season would make too much sense.

My career manager record is 3985-2485 for a winning % of .615. I avg 99 wins a damn year. My playoff record is 148-143 for a useless .509 %. PATHETIC. I have won only 7 world series rings and I bet I have been booted from the playoffs in the first round about 20 times, usually when my team DOMINATES the whole elague in the reg season

I am 63 years old in the game...I just hope I die soon so I can quit this useless mode.

If you want to discuss ways in which we can make the game better, we would be glad to take part in that discussion.

On the other hand, if you insist on only badmouthing the game in such a graphic way, I don't think you'll get anyone's attention here.

Please refrain from such aggressive behavior.

Henry

Gastric ReFlux · 07-21-2003, 12:00 PM

Dare I say it? It doesn't really sound out of the realm of statistical chance.

doubles · 07-21-2003, 12:03 PM

Can someone say Atlanta Braves circa 1990s??

Steve Kuffrey · 07-21-2003, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by doubles
Can someone say Atlanta Braves circa 1990s??

Exactly, plus this is not a new topic or subject. In a nutshell:

-You play all types of crappy teams during the reg. season and THE BEST in the playoffs.
-You face crappy players(pitchers in particular) with horrible ratings in the reg. season. In the playoffs teams move to "their BIG 3 for a rotation" and you face them game after game.
-ANY team could potentially win a "playoff size series", I don't care what their track record OR "regular season record".

More could be said but I'd say any or all of the above are quite possibly why this happens.

TC Dale · 07-21-2003, 12:11 PM

I was thinking the same thing...7 Rings in 40 years is really good.
And the Braves analogy is so true.Henry also has it right. If you want to discuss problems you have with the game, you are really going the wrong way with it. You need to loosen up the rhetoric, and the help would be a lot quicker forthcoming.

You need to look at it like, what level are you playing manager mode on? If not the highest setting, make it so, and see what happens then.

Because I think 7 rings is a lot of rings for 40 years.....you should not be complaining

TwinMonster · 07-21-2003, 01:48 PM

I haven't had much trouble with manager mode. I do the medium difficulty setting, make the play-offs every year, and sometimes I make it all the way, and sometimes I don't. Seems realistic to me.

KurtBevacqua · 07-21-2003, 02:07 PM

Perhaps the problem with your team isn't the player's clutch ratings, but the manager's.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 07-21-2003, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by r2917
So what, a team can kill during 162 games every year and then suddenly suck in the playoffs? Riiiiight. Sheesh.

We agree.

Signed,

The 2001 Seattle Mariners and the 2002 Atlanta Braves

tcblcommish · 07-21-2003, 02:53 PM

IF the manager mode is such a bad idea and so tremendously flawed then why would you play 40 years worth?

If you won EVERY World Series then the game is too easy. Some people just can never be happy. I am not saying that about you but the way you have blasted the game for the mode is definately the wrong way.

I have played the manager mode quite a few times over the past few months and thought that even though it is flawed, it is pretty solid for a first attempt. I like it and I don't think that there is a complex in the game to make the better team lose in the playoffs.

Maybe the team you had in year 40 wasn't good enough?

Teams with 3 stud pitchers and decent offence can beat a team that has decent pitching and great offence. It happens all the time. If it didn't then where would the excitment be?

Please turn it off if you don't like it but don't come on here looking for help and ripping the mode. Most people enjoy it, some don't

sixto · 07-21-2003, 02:59 PM

Anyway winning the World Series is not the proper way to assess whether a team is a good team or not. Winning the World Series is something fun for you and your fans.

Steve Kuffrey · 07-21-2003, 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by sixto
Anyway winning the World Series is not the proper way to assess whether a team is a good team or not. Winning the World Series is something fun for you and your fans.

As a loyal Braves fan I can certainly attest to this being true.

Henry · 07-21-2003, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve Kuffrey
As a loyal Braves fan I can certainly attest to this being true.

Trust me Steve - not nearly as bad as being an Indians fan... then again, I REALLY feel sorry for Cubs fans (but they do have the best ballpark!).

Henry

tyler · 07-21-2003, 05:29 PM

What about the Astros? Division winner 4 of the past 6 years (albeit a lackluster division), and no escaping the first round? Bagwell's postseason batting average is like .100 something.

Anyway, r2917 needs his bottle and a nap. Stop crying.

-tyler

beatle · 07-21-2003, 06:15 PM

Try playing out games if you begin to fall behind in a series. This has assisted me in putting the best players in on key situations which has produced more good resulsts than negative results. Anyways, it's worth a try.

Rockpile · 07-21-2003, 08:08 PM

Make sure you should build your team for the post season with three oustanding starting pitchers, high OBP lineup (with power in the middle) and an INSANE bullpen.

Even then...you won't win the world series every year. It may help to manage your own games in the post season and give yourself an advantage over "simming". ALSO you can put your hot players higher in the lineup and drop those ice cold guys down. This helps a lot (almost as much as the old Nintendo series Basesloaded Baseball).

couriers · 07-21-2003, 08:56 PM

I make sure to play out every single game in the post season. One of my leagues has an active manager mode for 7 seasons now with the following results (currently in the first round of the play-offs in the 7th season):

Darkheath · 07-21-2003, 09:24 PM

I have played this game thru 2018 and have also built my own version of the 90's Braves. I've won the series "only" twice in twelve years, but have been in the playoffs every year after dominating the division. Only once in that twelve years did another team have a better record. It is pretty frustrating, but makes me try harder next year. As a matter of fact, I signed my last extension with the team because I lost in the playoffs. I had decided I wanted to move to rebuild another team, but after losing in the playoffs, I decided to try with them again.

Not complaining, mind you.. just posting. I, too, can feel the Braves pain!

07-21-2003, 11:48 AM	#2
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Maybe you have players on your team that are not clutch. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

07-21-2003, 12:11 PM	#8
TC Dale Global Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,960	I was thinking the same thing...7 Rings in 40 years is really good. And the Braves analogy is so true.Henry also has it right. If you want to discuss problems you have with the game, you are really going the wrong way with it. You need to loosen up the rhetoric, and the help would be a lot quicker forthcoming. You need to look at it like, what level are you playing manager mode on? If not the highest setting, make it so, and see what happens then. Because I think 7 rings is a lot of rings for 40 years.....you should not be complaining __________________ ----------------------------------

07-21-2003, 02:07 PM	#10
KurtBevacqua Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,968	Perhaps the problem with your team isn't the player's clutch ratings, but the manager's. __________________ "The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man" - William Graham Sumner

07-21-2003, 06:15 PM	#17
beatle All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 631	Try playing out games if you begin to fall behind in a series. This has assisted me in putting the best players in on key situations which has produced more good resulsts than negative results. Anyways, it's worth a try. __________________ If you hang with the buzzards, you eat the dead mule! Beatle

07-21-2003, 08:56 PM	#19
couriers All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale Fla Posts: 932	I make sure to play out every single game in the post season. One of my leagues has an active manager mode for 7 seasons now with the following results (currently in the first round of the play-offs in the 7th season): Attached Images

07-21-2003, 11:45 AM	#1
r2917 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2	Some SERIOUS issues with Manager Mode Manager mode sucks. Almost every year I DESTROY the league in the reg season and then lose in the first round. This past year I lost to a team that had 37 fewer wins than I did!!! I won the first game and then bam, lost 3 straight. The Tigers (i am the red sox) then went on to get swept by the Yanks in the next round. I was ranked #1 in every major cateogry to boot. My reg season record was 122-40!!!! This mode has somer serious flaws. WTF, did they think that offers a challenge to it? So what, a team can kill during 162 games every year and then suddenly suck in the playoffs? Riiiiight. Sheesh. Oh and how come when players come up for contract extensions 98% of the time they ask what I can give them but don't fire me out a number? That's silly. I like the game but this crap is garbage. Guess it is time to go back to the normal franchise mode because the manager mode is obviously flawed like there is no tomorrow. Last edited by r2917; 07-21-2003 at 11:50 AM.

07-21-2003, 11:55 AM	#3
r2917 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2	No my players don't have issues wiht their clutch performance. Maybe, just maybe the reason this happens ALL THE DAMN TIME (I have a franchise that is 40 years in) is because the mdoe is a POS and they decided that having a team do well in the playoffs after a good reg season would make too much sense. My career manager record is 3985-2485 for a winning % of .615. I avg 99 wins a damn year. My playoff record is 148-143 for a useless .509 %. PATHETIC. I have won only 7 world series rings and I bet I have been booted from the playoffs in the first round about 20 times, usually when my team DOMINATES the whole elague in the reg season I am 63 years old in the game...I just hope I die soon so I can quit this useless mode.

07-21-2003, 12:00 PM	#5
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	Dare I say it? It doesn't really sound out of the realm of statistical chance.

07-21-2003, 12:03 PM	#6
doubles Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 480	Can someone say Atlanta Braves circa 1990s??

07-21-2003, 01:48 PM	#9
TwinMonster Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Minnepolis Posts: 325	I haven't had much trouble with manager mode. I do the medium difficulty setting, make the play-offs every year, and sometimes I make it all the way, and sometimes I don't. Seems realistic to me.

07-21-2003, 02:53 PM	#12
tcblcommish Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 3,439	IF the manager mode is such a bad idea and so tremendously flawed then why would you play 40 years worth? If you won EVERY World Series then the game is too easy. Some people just can never be happy. I am not saying that about you but the way you have blasted the game for the mode is definately the wrong way. I have played the manager mode quite a few times over the past few months and thought that even though it is flawed, it is pretty solid for a first attempt. I like it and I don't think that there is a complex in the game to make the better team lose in the playoffs. Maybe the team you had in year 40 wasn't good enough? Teams with 3 stud pitchers and decent offence can beat a team that has decent pitching and great offence. It happens all the time. If it didn't then where would the excitment be? Please turn it off if you don't like it but don't come on here looking for help and ripping the mode. Most people enjoy it, some don't

07-21-2003, 02:59 PM	#13
sixto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,262	Anyway winning the World Series is not the proper way to assess whether a team is a good team or not. Winning the World Series is something fun for you and your fans.

07-21-2003, 05:29 PM	#16
tyler Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 24	What about the Astros? Division winner 4 of the past 6 years (albeit a lackluster division), and no escaping the first round? Bagwell's postseason batting average is like .100 something. Anyway, r2917 needs his bottle and a nap. Stop crying. -tyler

07-21-2003, 08:08 PM	#18
Rockpile All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 620	Make sure you should build your team for the post season with three oustanding starting pitchers, high OBP lineup (with power in the middle) and an INSANE bullpen. Even then...you won't win the world series every year. It may help to manage your own games in the post season and give yourself an advantage over "simming". ALSO you can put your hot players higher in the lineup and drop those ice cold guys down. This helps a lot (almost as much as the old Nintendo series Basesloaded Baseball).

07-21-2003, 09:24 PM	#20
Darkheath Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 46	I have played this game thru 2018 and have also built my own version of the 90's Braves. I've won the series "only" twice in twelve years, but have been in the playoffs every year after dominating the division. Only once in that twelve years did another team have a better record. It is pretty frustrating, but makes me try harder next year. As a matter of fact, I signed my last extension with the team because I lost in the playoffs. I had decided I wanted to move to rebuild another team, but after losing in the playoffs, I decided to try with them again. Not complaining, mind you.. just posting. I, too, can feel the Braves pain! __________________ ... missed it by THAT much! - Maxwell Smart