Giancarlo Stanton

[jdono927]

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

He can't opt out until 2020 when he's 31. But I agree, it's unlikely that he's a Marlin for the next 13 years.

Oh my bad must of read wrong

[Assos]

No one has brought up the fact that he was hit by a pitch and broke his jaw. There is no telling what mental condition he is in when someone throw a 95 mph fastball at his face. He might not be the same fearless batter he is.
Also, the opt out clauses will neuter this dead 5 years out. I think the deal is brilliant for the Marlins if he is the same player for the next 5 years, then his pride will kick in and decline with the Yankees or Dodgers. It is alot of money, but to draw fans, you need a big name, ask LeBron and the fan support he had.

[MBarrett]

Don't be fooled Marlins fans, the scumbag Loria is just doing what's best for his bottom line as he always does.

"Why Giancarlo Stanton’s $325 Million Contract Was Actually A Genius Move"

[RchW]

Originally Posted by MBarrett

Don't be fooled Marlins fans, the scumbag Loria is just doing what's best for his bottom line as he always does.

"Why Giancarlo Stanton’s $325 Million Contract Was Actually A Genius Move"

What does that matter if Stanton gets his?

[canadian content]

Originally Posted by MBarrett

"Why Giancarlo Stanton’s $325 Million Contract Was Actually A Genius Move"

This article was a stretch; pure speculation.

[Ike348]

Stanton is still a relative unknown in the sports world.

Relative to who? LeBron James?

[Cole]

Originally Posted by canadian content

For the rest of his career?

Do you really believe that?

I *think* he meant they have just signed someone who could be a future NL MVP (true statement), and they have also signed him for what will likely be the rest of this career (also possibly true statement). I don't think he meant the guy will be an NL MVP for the rest of his career.

Anyway, I am curious why everyone seems to think it's only actually a 5 or 6 year deal?? And they presume he will walk away? From what I've read, the deal is heavily backloaded, with a total of $218 million, an average of $31.14 million a year, over the final seasons .. Why would he walk away from that type of money?

As for the deal itself and the Marlins fans defending it.. I just don't get it ... Were the terms of this brought forward by management, or did Stanton play hardball and refuse anything but this 13-year, $325 million contract?

Would he not have accepted a decade-long deal? Or one that only paid him $300 million? Something with an average annual value of $20 million per year, instead of $25 million? I just don't understand how a contract of this magnitude ever comes to even be. Is Stanton that greedy that he wouldn't have signed anything less, or is Marlins ownership that loose with the purse strings that the two sides pretty easily got to this point?

I get that it was wise to resign him... but... I just don't see how such a monster contract was needed or warranted. He's not even in the best player in baseball and he's being paid like he's the best to ever play the game.

[tejdog1]

Because ARod did. 6-7 years from now, if he performs, he'll get 40m per for 10 years.

[Pacoheadley]

Originally Posted by ripwalk

I *think* he meant they have just signed someone who could be a future NL MVP (true statement), and they have also signed him for what will likely be the rest of this career (also possibly true statement). I don't think he meant the guy will be an NL MVP for the rest of his career.

Anyway, I am curious why everyone seems to think it's only actually a 5 or 6 year deal?? And they presume he will walk away? From what I've read, the deal is heavily backloaded, with a total of $218 million, an average of $31.14 million a year, over the final seasons .. Why would he walk away from that type of money?

As for the deal itself and the Marlins fans defending it.. I just don't get it ... Were the terms of this brought forward by management, or did Stanton play hardball and refuse anything but this 13-year, $325 million contract?

Would he not have accepted a decade-long deal? Or one that only paid him $300 million? Something with an average annual value of $20 million per year, instead of $25 million? I just don't understand how a contract of this magnitude ever comes to even be. Is Stanton that greedy that he wouldn't have signed anything less, or is Marlins ownership that loose with the purse strings that the two sides pretty easily got to this point?

I get that it was wise to resign him... but... I just don't see how such a monster contract was needed or warranted. He's not even in the best player in baseball and he's being paid like he's the best to ever play the game.

This deal isn't as bad as you're making it out to be. The first 6 years before the opt-out are worth only about $17 annually, which is a bargain for an MVP caliber player. These are also his prime years, not his decline years, making the first half even more of an amazing deal.

If he is still MVP caliber at the opt-out point, he may actually do it, we don't know how high salaries will be at that point, inflation has been crazy the past few years in baseball. Even if he doesn't opt out, with the inflation that $30 mil annually will be more like $20 mil today. If it does turn into an albatross, it won't be until the last couple of years (He is signed through age 37, not 40 or 41 like many players now). I think the Marlins are okay with a risk of it being a little bad on the back end, because of how much of a bargain he appears to be for the front end.

ZIPS, a projection engine which is usually pretty harsh on aging, has him being worth $315M over the next 13 years, just below what he signed for. This deal is bold, and isn't that bad of a move for the Marlins.

P.S. Edit: Also, Miami will be up for a new TV deal soon, and this contract with a couple more signings could get them millions more in that deal, increasing their revenue stream in the future. That's another upside. It may also increase fan trust.

[canadian content]

Originally Posted by ripwalk

I don't think he meant the guy will be an NL MVP for the rest of his career.

I didn't think he meant that, either.

[jdono927]

Originally Posted by ripwalk

I get that it was wise to resign him... but... I just don't see how such a monster contract was needed or warranted. He's not even in the best player in baseball and he's being paid like he's the best to ever play the game.

He is one of the best right now, and he is only 25.

[JMDurron]

Originally Posted by Ike348

Relative to who? LeBron James?

Aside from diehard baseball fans, he is a relative unknown in the sports world. A casual sports fan who doesn't play fantasy baseball might not be able to name Stanton before 10 other baseball players who are "stars." Playing for a bad team that has rarely been in playoff contention while he has been at his best exacerbates that issue.

I'd guess that he'd be named after A-Rod, David Ortiz, Stephen Strasburg, Miguel Cabrera, Justin Verlander, Albert Pujols, Clayton Kershaw, Pablo Sandoval (recency is important for cultural relevance), Bumgarner, and Felix Hernandez in terms of culturally recognized baseball stars, at a minimum. That list is in no particular order.

That list also doesn't include about a dozen NFL and maybe 3-4 NBA players who are more culturally relevant to casual sports fans.

[Cryomaniac]

Originally Posted by Ike348

Relative to who? LeBron James?

Worldwide he's an unknown relative to people like Christiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi.

[Ike348]

Originally Posted by JMDurron

Aside from diehard baseball fans, he is a relative unknown in the sports world. A casual sports fan who doesn't play fantasy baseball might not be able to name Stanton before 10 other baseball players who are "stars." Playing for a bad team that has rarely been in playoff contention while he has been at his best exacerbates that issue.

I'd guess that he'd be named after A-Rod, David Ortiz, Stephen Strasburg, Miguel Cabrera, Justin Verlander, Albert Pujols, Clayton Kershaw, Pablo Sandoval (recency is important for cultural relevance), Bumgarner, and Felix Hernandez in terms of culturally recognized baseball stars, at a minimum. That list is in no particular order.

That list also doesn't include about a dozen NFL and maybe 3-4 NBA players who are more culturally relevant to casual sports fans.

I guess I see your point. He hasn't played in the league long enough or in a big enough market to garner the (lack of) popularity for someone like A-Rod or Ortiz.

Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

Worldwide he's an unknown relative to people like Christiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi.

Sure, but so is any baseball player with the exception of maybe Jeter or somebody else extremely popular in the sport.

[Padreman]

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