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OOTP 15 - General Discussions Discuss the new 2014 version of Out of the Park Baseball here! |
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HUUUUGE glitch UGH
I believe I've reported this before from OOTP14. Anyways, I'm a simmer where I will 'manage' each game. I do this so I can set each lineup for each game...once in the game I quick-sim to the 7th inning, to see where I stand in the game. I do this because I like to control who pitches out of my bullpen in close games.
In this game below, I brought Cesar Sanchez in the 16th and planned on him pitching 3 innings as long as he didnt throw too many pitches in the first two. So I clicked 'half-inning' under the sim options and after 2.0 scoreless IP I proceeded to sim another half-inning with him in. I have noticed this before, when you sim by a half inning, no matter what happens to your pitcher the manager will not remove him. The only reason he was removed in this situation was because he got injured. Mr. Sanchez is a rookie with promising stuff and this just completely ruined his season ERA. Why can't the manager pull out a struggling pitcher when you sim a half inning? They pull guys when you sim more than 1 inning at a time... |
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I'm almost positive that this behavior is intentional.
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This half inning thing has been around for as long as I can remember. Things work fine if you sim until a certain inning, but simming a 1/2 inning at a time just doesn't work. Not sure if it's by design or not.
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The thing that catches my eye is that he was the seventh reliever used in the game. Most teams have only seven relievers -- 12-man staff consisting of five starters and seven relievers. So if you had no relievers remaining, that could cause this. I have seen the AI use rested starters in the past, but not every time. If Webster, who pitched after Sanchez, is a reliever, then you have a case to be made.
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Thanks. I know this has been discussed before, so I believe it's a known "issue." But I think the specific example he gives is flawed if Sanchez was the last reliever available. Any time a game gets that deep into extra innings, the chances of wonky AI decisions greatly increases.
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Sanchez: "Skip, I'm not sure I have it today. I've given up 12 runs already and I've thrown 92 pitches!" Skip: "Sorry, Sanchez, you're our last reliever." Sanchez: "But what about Webster over there? He looks pretty fresh." Skip: "Nope, Sanchez, he's a starter. Can't do it. GM's orders." (arm falls off) |
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I believe I've seen the same, but I didn't want to say it earlier because I'm not 100% positive.
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i said the only reason sanchez was pulled was because he got injured. i had one other RP. plus ive seen this before in non-extra inning games with many RPs available
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Set pitch limits for your relievers. That will ensure that the AI uses all your relievers in a case like this. If you run out of relievers, this could happen, though. Or the AI will put a position player on the mound, which is entirely realistic.
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Wouldn't the easy way around this be to play out each inning after the 7th instead of simming? Just saying.
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