How much better than the AI are you?

weppnesp · 07-22-2014, 11:05 PM

A common complaint is that people who sim games (let the AI run things) will not do as well as when they control things in-game (from micro-managing pitch by pitch to the genteel taking over when runners are in scoring position).

How about this for a quantitative test of your ability over the AI

[1] Form a league of two teams: (1) 2014 Yankees and (2) a duplicate of that team

[2] Turn off all story-lines, injuries, suspensions

[3] Create a 150 game season

[4] Play it out however you like best playing team 1

[5] If you win 95 games then you have a statistically significant result and you are probably better than the AI

[6] if you repeat this process for 5 seasons (repeat 2014 for 5 seasons, do not go to 2015) and keep an average of 88 games per season you are surely better than the AI

What do you think? Who is willing to give it a shot?

The results may help Marcus develop a better AI plus you can now make a comparison with other players. A nice controlled experiment.

The Game · 07-23-2014, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by weppnesp

A common complaint is that people who sim games (let the AI run things) will not do as well as when they control things in-game (from micro-managing pitch by pitch to the genteel taking over when runners are in scoring position).

How about this for a quantitative test of your ability over the AI

[1] Form a league of two teams: (1) 2014 Yankees and (2) a duplicate of that team

[2] Turn off all story-lines, injuries, suspensions

[3] Create a 150 game season

[4] Play it out however you like best playing team 1

[5] If you win 95 games then you have a statistically significant result and you are probably better than the AI

[6] if you repeat this process for 5 seasons (repeat 2014 for 5 seasons, do not go to 2015) and keep an average of 88 games per season you are surely better than the AI

What do you think? Who is willing to give it a shot?

The results may help Marcus develop a better AI plus you can now make a comparison with other players. A nice controlled experiment.

one problem with this is you can not use the 2014 Yankees or any 2014 team unless you delete every other team also (using MLB quickstart) why bother? Also why the 2014 Yankees? They are not that good.. 2013 or before you can start with thru historical league.

Westheim · 07-23-2014, 09:28 AM

Obviously it doesn't matter how good they are as long as they play against themselves. Then they will always be average.

Ike348 · 07-23-2014, 12:53 PM

Create a 2-team fictional league. Clone all players on Team 1 and move them to Team 2, releasing the old Team 2 players.

RchW · 07-23-2014, 01:24 PM

Play the game and miss the playoffs.

07-22-2014, 11:05 PM	#1
weppnesp Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 15	How much better than the AI are you? A common complaint is that people who sim games (let the AI run things) will not do as well as when they control things in-game (from micro-managing pitch by pitch to the genteel taking over when runners are in scoring position). How about this for a quantitative test of your ability over the AI [1] Form a league of two teams: (1) 2014 Yankees and (2) a duplicate of that team [2] Turn off all story-lines, injuries, suspensions [3] Create a 150 game season [4] Play it out however you like best playing team 1 [5] If you win 95 games then you have a statistically significant result and you are probably better than the AI [6] if you repeat this process for 5 seasons (repeat 2014 for 5 seasons, do not go to 2015) and keep an average of 88 games per season you are surely better than the AI What do you think? Who is willing to give it a shot? The results may help Marcus develop a better AI plus you can now make a comparison with other players. A nice controlled experiment.

07-23-2014, 09:28 AM	#3
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07-23-2014, 01:24 PM	#5
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