MLB should embrace OOTP - Page 5

megamanmatt · 05-24-2014, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thevaliantx

That is, the game of baseball is (and has) being destroyed by MLB, and those who have followed the sport religiously for many, many years, in some cases for 70-80 years, don't matter. Without the fans MLB would have been long gone.

Which is the same thing people were saying back in 1890. What I fail to understand is how "The MLB is protecting their trademarks" works out to long "The MLB is destroying baseball and by extension my life!!!!!!!111!!11!!!!11!!" rants. The MLB is simply doing what each and every business in the United States of America would do in the same situation. Every single one.

05-24-2014, 02:30 PM

And this is the same what would Markus and Co do if you managed to step over its trademarks or whatever.

megamanmatt · 05-24-2014, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dmytron

And this is the same what would Markus and Co do if you managed to step over its trademarks or whatever.

Exactly. Any business who wouldn't protect their product wouldn't be a business for very long. Business isn't about friendly competition.

jaysdailydose · 05-24-2014, 04:12 PM

I pretty much disagree with the entire "mlb destroying baseball" outlook.

But it's your opinion, and you are entitled to it!

PSUColonel · 05-24-2014, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

Btw, the minors were correct. Sneaky, sneaky, OOTPD.

on a mac, this approach makes the game crash....so for us mac users...it's a no win scenario

Lukas Berger · 05-24-2014, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dmytron

You have any choice? Would you more likely follow Ukrainian Babseball League?

Of course! Who isn't a fan of Scythians or of KNTU-Elisavetgrad? Much better than the boring old Dodgers and Yankees and the awful MLB!

Rockfan616 · 05-24-2014, 06:05 PM

I'm just going to use one of the quickstarts and that will be that, but I want to finish the season/league that I'm in right now before I start that. No fuss no muss, I don't like it but like it was already said above, MLB is just protecting their assets is all. Such is life I guess.

RchW · 05-24-2014, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by thevaliantx

Oh I believe they are going to protect their trademark, alright, but that isn't really what the person you quoted was talking about. I think you are not seeing the big picture here. That is, the game of baseball is (and has) being destroyed by MLB, and those who have followed the sport religiously for many, many years, in some cases for 70-80 years, don't matter. Without the fans MLB would have been long gone.

Any facts to back up your assertion that baseball has been destroyed? As somebody said you are entitled to an opinion but you are not entitled to make false statements. Fact; Baseball is thriving by any measurement known; ergo your statement is false.

New fans old fans and many non-fans flock to baseball games every day. MLB is not without fans, fans continue to go to games and watch on TV and the internet so obviously fans are voting with their wallets and butts.

I see no picture. Why don't you coherently explain what your point is?

thevaliantx · 05-24-2014, 08:20 PM

You know what I think? You and your chicken littles wouldn't be so supportive of what MLB is about to do if you didn't think Markus' game was in jeapordy by not cow-towing to what will eventually be the same demands from MLB and its 'licensing' team that did in 2K Sports and, to some degree, MLB The Show. If you think MLB (and the MLBPA) haven't done significant damage to America's past-time, then you've been sleeping under a rock. Many sports writers and long-time followers of the game disagree with you. Since you seem to think I'm "incoherent"you shouldn't have any problems looking into the history of the game and the changes that have been made over the years (almost all of them bad) and the video games that represent them, and seeing that Markus has an uphill battle to fight. Maybe YOU have no issue with the game not being shipped with the real team names (and player names and storylines and contracts...just wait and see), but many, many people that have been long-time supporters of the game, and certainly potential newcomers to the OOTP product, DO have a problem with it. Just because you don't agree doesn't make it false, insignificant or, as you put it, incoherent. Does this help you better understand what I (and others here) wrote earlier, or did you literally mean you needed someone to draw a picture for you? I am on Markus' side, I wish him the best of luck, but history stands a good chance of repeating itself.

The Wolf · 05-24-2014, 08:34 PM

Those who don't learn from history are always doomed to repeat it.

megamanmatt · 05-24-2014, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by thevaliantx

You know what I think? You and your chicken littles wouldn't be so supportive of what MLB is about to do if you didn't think Markus' game was in jeapordy by not cow-towing to what will eventually be the same demands from MLB and its 'licensing' team that did in 2K Sports and, to some degree, MLB The Show. If you think MLB (and the MLBPA) haven't done significant damage to America's past-time, then you've been sleeping under a rock. Many sports writers and long-time followers of the game disagree with you. Since you seem to think I'm "incoherent"you shouldn't have any problems looking into the history of the game and the changes that have been made over the years (almost all of them bad) and the video games that represent them, and seeing that Markus has an uphill battle to fight. Maybe YOU have no issue with the game not being shipped with the real team names (and player names and storylines and contracts...just wait and see), but many, many people that have been long-time supporters of the game, and certainly potential newcomers to the OOTP product, DO have a problem with it. Just because you don't agree doesn't make it false, insignificant or, as you put it, incoherent. Does this help you better understand what I (and others here) wrote earlier, or did you literally mean you needed someone to draw a picture for you? I am on Markus' side, I wish him the best of luck, but history stands a good chance of repeating itself.

Must.... control.... temper. Think... of..... bunnies....

The Wolf · 05-24-2014, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by megamanmatt

Must.... control.... temper. Think... of..... bunnies....

megamanmatt · 05-24-2014, 09:08 PM

Hey Wolf. Remember back before the game shipped with the MLB quickstart when we still had MLB rosters every year because the community, being as awesome as it is, created rosters (all hail the legendary CubbieFan), logos, and everything you needed to play? See you'd remember because you're not one of the newer members who has no concept of how things really seem to work here.

The Wolf · 05-24-2014, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by megamanmatt

Hey Wolf. Remember back before the game shipped with the MLB quickstart when we still had MLB rosters every year because the community, being as awesome as it is, created rosters (all hail the legendary CubbieFan), logos, and everything you needed to play? See you'd remember because you're not one of the newer members who has no concept of how things really seem to work here.

I do remember that. All hail Cubbiefan!

Fyrestorm3 · 05-24-2014, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by megamanmatt

Hey Wolf. Remember back before the game shipped with the MLB quickstart when we still had MLB rosters every year because the community, being as awesome as it is, created rosters (all hail the legendary CubbieFan), logos, and everything you needed to play? See you'd remember because you're not one of the newer members who has no concept of how things really seem to work here.

*Glances at signature*

CRAZY TALK!

The Wolf · 05-25-2014, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

*Glances at signature*

CRAZY TALK!

Bah. You guys who joined after 2006 just don't understand.

bwburke94 · 05-25-2014, 01:43 AM

Until OOTP12 or 13, the Major American League (in "Create Custom Game") didn't use real team names. So some of the long-time players are used to this.

MarkInCincy · 05-25-2014, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by megamanmatt

Hey Wolf. Remember back before the game shipped with the MLB quickstart when we still had MLB rosters every year because the community, being as awesome as it is, created rosters (all hail the legendary CubbieFan), logos, and everything you needed to play? See you'd remember because you're not one of the newer members who has no concept of how things really seem to work here.

Newbies have no idea over people like us playing since OOTP 3......

05-25-2014, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lukasberger

Of course! Who isn't a fan of Scythians or of KNTU-Elisavetgrad? Much better than the boring old Dodgers and Yankees and the awful MLB!

Kirovograd (KNTU-Elisavetgrad) is very strong. Since it's near my Kremenchuk I feel like like I'm the champion of Ukraine. (Comparing the records it's stronger than Cubs anyway)

Tekneek · 05-25-2014, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bwburke94

Until OOTP12 or 13, the Major American League (in "Create Custom Game") didn't use real team names. So some of the long-time players are used to this.

Seems like I can remember a time when the players did not have real names either. I am not completely sure about that one.

05-24-2014, 04:12 PM	#84
jaysdailydose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,325	I pretty much disagree with the entire "mlb destroying baseball" outlook. But it's your opinion, and you are entitled to it! __________________ Manager - Motor City Marshals Perfect Manager/Discord Name: jaysdailydose

05-24-2014, 08:20 PM	#89
thevaliantx Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 292	You know what I think? You and your chicken littles wouldn't be so supportive of what MLB is about to do if you didn't think Markus' game was in jeapordy by not cow-towing to what will eventually be the same demands from MLB and its 'licensing' team that did in 2K Sports and, to some degree, MLB The Show. If you think MLB (and the MLBPA) haven't done significant damage to America's past-time, then you've been sleeping under a rock. Many sports writers and long-time followers of the game disagree with you. Since you seem to think I'm "incoherent"you shouldn't have any problems looking into the history of the game and the changes that have been made over the years (almost all of them bad) and the video games that represent them, and seeing that Markus has an uphill battle to fight. Maybe YOU have no issue with the game not being shipped with the real team names (and player names and storylines and contracts...just wait and see), but many, many people that have been long-time supporters of the game, and certainly potential newcomers to the OOTP product, DO have a problem with it. Just because you don't agree doesn't make it false, insignificant or, as you put it, incoherent. Does this help you better understand what I (and others here) wrote earlier, or did you literally mean you needed someone to draw a picture for you? I am on Markus' side, I wish him the best of luck, but history stands a good chance of repeating itself. Last edited by thevaliantx; 05-24-2014 at 08:22 PM. Reason: EDIT: I have said all I feel I needed to say in this thread, I'll let someone else carry the torch ;)

05-24-2014, 09:08 PM	#93
megamanmatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeville, Minnesota Posts: 2,416	Hey Wolf. Remember back before the game shipped with the MLB quickstart when we still had MLB rosters every year because the community, being as awesome as it is, created rosters (all hail the legendary CubbieFan), logos, and everything you needed to play? See you'd remember because you're not one of the newer members who has no concept of how things really seem to work here. __________________ "The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles, where there are no lakes; The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil; the Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music; The Oakland Raiders moved to Los Angeles and then back to Oakland, no one in Los Angeles seemed to notice." Note to self: Princess Kenny was really off-putting.

05-24-2014, 02:30 PM	#82
dmytron Guest Posts: n/a	And this is the same what would Markus and Co do if you managed to step over its trademarks or whatever.

05-24-2014, 06:05 PM	#87
Rockfan616 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 275	I'm just going to use one of the quickstarts and that will be that, but I want to finish the season/league that I'm in right now before I start that. No fuss no muss, I don't like it but like it was already said above, MLB is just protecting their assets is all. Such is life I guess.

05-25-2014, 01:43 AM	#97
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,523	Until OOTP12 or 13, the Major American League (in "Create Custom Game") didn't use real team names. So some of the long-time players are used to this.