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Old 05-13-2014, 04:46 PM   #21
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Maybe for a fantasy baseball league, but Charlotte isn't really major league ready. And they know it. They just built a brand new on-expandable downtown AAA park. It'll sell 9-10 thousand a night for awhile, but that will die off. Already have two major league teams here plus NASCAR. No way MLB is getting over 20K here on week nights.
Baseball Prospectus ranked Chatlotte as the number four candidate for an MLB expansion city, so forgive me if I go with them instead of you.

4. Charlotte, NC
Population (data): 751,087
Distance to Nearest MLB Market: Atlanta (224 miles)
MLB Television Territories Impacted (data): Nationals, Orioles
Median Household Income (2006-2010): $52,446
Television Information (data): (Ranks 25th in DMA) 1,136,420 television households, 0.995 percent of all US TV households
Radio Information (data): Arbitron ranking: 24th (Metro 12+ population: 2,071,600, which includes Gastonia-Rock Hill)
Number of Major League Teams: 2 (NBA: Bobcats, NFL: Panthers)
Interim/New Facility Location: Knights Stadium (seating capacity: 10,002)
Population Base per Franchise (with MLB team): 250,363
Number of Fortune 1000 Companies: 12

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Old 05-13-2014, 04:50 PM   #22
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Toronto and Detroit should always be in the same division.


And yes, I realize that they are NOT in the same division right now.
Assuming Toronto is allowed to exist.
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:52 PM   #23
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Toronto and Detroit should always be in the same division.


And yes, I realize that they are NOT in the same division right now.
By that logic the Giants and the Athletics should also be in the same division.
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:00 PM   #24
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Maybe for a fantasy baseball league, but Charlotte isn't really major league ready. And they know it. They just built a brand new on-expandable downtown AAA park. It'll sell 9-10 thousand a night for awhile, but that will die off. Already have two major league teams here plus NASCAR. No way MLB is getting over 20K here on week nights.
Franky, IMO, any current or near-future expansion scenario is a fantasy. I don't think it will happen in real life. All of the potential cities have their problems. So we might as well have our fun with it, try to make it "realistic-ish," and carry on. In that sense places like Charlotte and Portland qualify.
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:04 PM   #25
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Old 05-13-2014, 06:03 PM   #26
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Love to see other people abolish Toronto
The MLB never should've expanded to Canada in the first place.
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The MLB never should've expanded to Canada in the first place.
You're just jealous about not having the 1992 and 1993 World Series wins going to a U.S.-based team!
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Old 05-13-2014, 06:56 PM   #28
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Franky, IMO, any current or near-future expansion scenario is a fantasy. I don't think it will happen in real life. All of the potential cities have their problems. So we might as well have our fun with it, try to make it "realistic-ish," and carry on. In that sense places like Charlotte and Portland qualify.
Particularly since I pulled Portland, Charlotte and San Antonio off of BP's Top Ten expansion cities list.
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You're just jealous about not having the 1992 and 1993 World Series wins going to a U.S.-based team!
Ever watch that South Park movie? It's like that.
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Hey, this is half the fun of OOTP! YOU get to determine the fate of Baseball, not some clown in a business suit... [que clown horn]

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Ever watch that South Park movie? It's like that.
Why do you make Terrance and Phillip cry?
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:44 PM   #32
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Good ideas here. Wish the thread had blown up before I did the expansion though lol
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Why do you make Terrance and Phillip cry?
Newscaster: "But, Mr. Minister, it isn't like this is the first troublesome thing to come out of Canada. Let us not forget Bryan Adams."
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Old 05-14-2014, 12:38 AM   #34
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Hey, this is half the fun of OOTP! YOU get to determine the fate of Baseball, not some clown in a business suit... [que clown horn]
Totally right. I decree that the MLB stays out of Canada and the rest of the Third World, it stays out of Canada and the rest of the Third World!
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Newscaster: "But, Mr. Minister, it isn't like this is the first troublesome thing to come out of Canada. Let us not forget Bryan Adams."
Surely he has been replaced by Justin Beiber!
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Surely he has been replaced by Justin Beiber!
Not as the first, no. He's just the latest.

And we haven't even come close to paying you back for Celine Dion yet!
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Baseball and Canada go way back!
Baseball in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Wow. A purported game in 1838. I may have to include a Canadian league in my pre-1871 game. Any idea how the Canadian game was played? (My idea is that the high-scoring Massachusetts game starts in New England. Philadelphia town ball comes in later, and finally the New York knickerbocker game. Philly and NY merge, New England's best teams merge later. Then there's expansion with the NABBP in 1857 and finally the National Association in 1871.)
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And we haven't even come close to paying you back for Celine Dion yet!
Hey, it's your fault! It was American consumers who bought all her records and made her a huge sensation. She wasn't going to be a big star based only on the Quebec (later rest of Canada) market!
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