To promote or not to promote...opinions?

[tejdog1]

In most cases, I hate Ks, I railed against Adam Dunn for years and years, lol.

But Sano is going to be a MONSTER. And a plus defender at third. .270/.350/.600+ isn't out of the realm of possibility, who cares if he strikes out 175 times if he walks 95-100 times and hits you 45+ bombs?

Call him up.

[da commish]

Originally Posted by geoffmatt17

If you don't like his contact rating and strikeout rating now, it doesn't appear like it's going to change much for the better regardless of raking in AAA or getting big league swings. He's the #3 prospect.. make a trade for an equally big prospect with a skill set more aligned with your team.

This is the Twins organization he's in. They have no real major league skill set.

[r0nster]

Commish i would agree to a certain extent however IF the player has good coaches on the team then this might end up boosting his ratings a bit to be better than projected ratings... with this hopefully the case i think this player is a keeper and a chance to be a star

[da commish]

Originally Posted by r0nster

Commish i would agree to a certain extent however IF the player has good coaches on the team then this might end up boosting his ratings a bit to be better than projected ratings... with this hopefully the case i think this player is a keeper and a chance to be a star

I was just making an editorial comment on the current state of the Twins (my hometown team). I definitely think Sano is a keeper and hope he does become a star. twins fans are eagely awaiting his and Buxton's arrival, along with some other potential stars from the minor league system. It's been a pretty rough last few years.

[r0nster]

no worries commish all good am just hoping that the team has excellent coaching staff to boost this guys skills some and possibly cut his K's down a bit

[DC4MVP]

Update: I decided to let him stay in AAA for the rest of the season and have him going into 2015 Spring Training as my starting 3B. That was until a rash of injuries destroyed my infield in late July and I had no choice to call him up to start at 3B for a 2 weeks. After his stint, I sent him back down to AAA, he continued to mash, and he was a September call up as a platoon player with Trevor Plouffe. His AAA success really didn't care over.

He had 151 AB/.148 AVG/.289 OBP/56 K/6 HR/15 RBI

His AAA was 525 AB/.289 AVG/.392 OBP/132 K/48 HR/113 RBI

I have a fear I'm going to get a player who hits .230 with 25 HR and 85 RBI. Not really what I'm looking for on my team. But I know he's still very young and has time to grow but most of his stats are peaked out to potential or close to being there. So I don't want to trade him....yet.




Another AAA stint really isn't going to do him much good so I think I'm going to have him go into Spring Training as my everyday 3B. If he stinks during ST, I'll leave him in AAA until June and hope he works on his contact a bit.

Now, I have Byron Buxton knocking down the door. Although he's not nearly as ready, he's going to be in the same boat as Sano. I also gave him a small crack in September and he didn't do quite bad. He started off very hot hitting +.300 for his first 50 or so ABs then cooled down a bit.



Obviously he still needs improvement and may be a year and a half away yet before earning a starting spot.

[da commish]

If Sano ends up hitting just .230 then most (if not all) of the scouts, forecasters, etc. are wrong by a long ways. Regarding Buxton, his other skills, i.e., fielding and stolen bases, will make up for any low batting average in his first year or so.

[Matt Arnold]

Stats > ratings.

I'd keep Buxton down for the first year to game the service time, but he should be up by mid-June at the latest, and I would expect he should be starting for you down the stretch.

Sano, just live with the low average. Dunn who can play a passable 3B is still very valuable.

[DC4MVP]

Originally Posted by da commish

If Sano ends up hitting just .230 then most (if not all) of the scouts, forecasters, etc. are wrong by a long ways. Regarding Buxton, his other skills, i.e., fielding and stolen bases, will make up for any low batting average in his first year or so.

Yea, I'm nearing spring training and thinking more and more about getting Buxton as my CF going into Spring. Unless he really bombs in ST, he may go North with the club or may be up in June.

I have to make a splash this season. I got a 1/100 OOTP score last season and my owner is pretty furious. So I may have a year or two to turn it around to a .500 team.

Desperation may lead me to bring up my top prospects a lot sooner.

[da commish]

Originally Posted by DC4MVP

Yea, I'm nearing spring training and thinking more and more about getting Buxton as my CF going into Spring. Unless he really bombs in ST, he may go North with the club or may be up in June.

I have to make a splash this season. I got a 1/100 OOTP score last season and my owner is pretty furious. So I may have a year or two to turn it around to a .500 team.

Desperation may lead me to bring up my top prospects a lot sooner.

If Gardy can survive 3 96+ loss seasons, you should get at least another year or two.

[tejdog1]

Gonna go on record with this: Buxton will very quickly (IRL) become second in baseball to Mike Trout. In everything.

[PsychoBulk]

Originally Posted by tejdog1

Gonna go on record with this: Buxton will very quickly (IRL) become second in baseball to Mike Trout. In everything.

From everything ive read about him, i dont think youre alone in thinking that, in fact some of his tools are projected to be better than Trouts.

Should be exciting when he comes up.

[majesty95]

I actually called Rosario up first (early 2015) bc he was raking in AAA and was the most developed. Buxton came mid-2015 when Aaron Hicks got hurt. Sano was last a few weeks later.

Interestingly, Rosario has been the best of the 3. He's consistently hit about .315 in the 2 hole.

Buxton hit .254 in AA in 2014 then was hitting about .315 at AAA when he was called up. I believe he finished about .280.

Sano was under .200 for most of the year and wound up with 16 or 17 HR. I have the least hope for him of the 3

[Gator]

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

I understand the logic behind this, but holding him down until the following May is just wasting a productive year out of him. He's ready now and he's past the Super 2 deadline for the current season, so there's no reason to wait, at least to me.

Just curious when is the deadline?

[rferry]

Maybe try using the relative ratings feature?

[endgame]

Originally Posted by rferry

Maybe try using the relative ratings feature?

Interesting, having not even read the thread as of yet, the title alone provoked this very thought. The little time I've spent examining the feature led me to the same conclusion, that it may prove very helpful in predicting the readiness of an individual to meet the next level of challenges.

[OBSL Commish]

Originally Posted by Gator

Just curious when is the deadline?

Usually sometime in June, as I understand it. When a player becomes Super Two eligible really depends on how much service time the player has already accumulated. According to the MLB collective bargaining agreement, the player has to end his second full season in the top 22% of all non-arbitration-eligible players in MLB service time:

Super Two | FanGraphs Sabermetrics Library

It used to be 17% but raising it to 22% means the cut-off for Super Two status may be pushed in to July now, as the article says.

[Gator]

Originally Posted by OBSL Commish

Usually sometime in June, as I understand it. When a player becomes Super Two eligible really depends on how much service time the player has already accumulated. According to the MLB collective bargaining agreement, the player has to end his second full season in the top 22% of all non-arbitration-eligible players in MLB service time:

Super Two | FanGraphs Sabermetrics Library

It used to be 17% but raising it to 22% means the cut-off for Super Two status may be pushed in to July now, as the article says.

Thanks much and that's a great link as well.

[jasonditz]

Sano hit .148 for you,which is terrible, but his OBP is almost double that. He's got good fielding ratings and the potential to hit for huge power. If he can sort things out to even a mediocre average that Eye rating is going to give him a good OBP and a high-end OPS.

[r0nster]

I wouldn't give up on Sano for he is only 21 and I have noticed that when they hit 23 they seem to finally begin to get things together. I usually don't allow any players up till they 23 or so unless forced with thin big league roster.