Once again, my closer didn't make the All Star Team

[JPL86]

Here are the stats for the 3 closers that made it to the All Star Game:

W-L-S ERA
1) 3-1 26 Saves 1.60 ERA
2) 4-1 30 Saves 1.46 ERA
3) 6-0 19 Saves 2.31 ERA

Here are the stats for my closer:

4-1 30 Saves 0.58 ERA

Also to add to my closer's resume... 30 saves in 30 opportunities. None of the other 3 closers is perfect in Save opportunities.


This now, I feel, is definitive proof that there is a problem.

[le receveur]

Originally Posted by jpl86

here are the stats for the 3 closers that made it to the all star game:

W-l-s era
1) 3-1 26 saves 1.60 era
2) 4-1 30 saves 1.46 era
3) 6-0 19 saves 2.31 era

here are the stats for my closer:

4-1 30 saves 0.58 era

also to add to my closer's resume... 30 saves in 30 opportunities. None of the other 3 closers is perfect in save opportunities.


This now, i feel, is definitive proof that there is a problem.

fip? K/9? Bb/9? IP? Leverage index?

team records,

[Ike348]

I find this happens a lot in my iOOTP league. My closer always has all-star worthy stats, but some scrubs get in ahead of him.

Though it doesn't matter as he'll be sitting in the Hall in a few years when he retires with 700 saves (570-something at 35)

[ezpkns34]

I always pick the all-star teams in the main league (only takes a couple mins to do & helps minimize mistakes/snubs)

[le receveur]

Originally Posted by ezpkns34

I always pick the all-star teams in the main league (only takes a couple mins to do & helps minimize mistakes/snubs)

I do to.. Always pick guys on other team with high bonuses to make all-star game. serves the GM for compensating some random popularity contest

[bobfrig]

Originally Posted by Ike348

I find this happens a lot in my iOOTP league. My closer always has all-star worthy stats, but some scrubs get in ahead of him.

Though it doesn't matter as he'll be sitting in the Hall in a few years when he retires with 700 saves (570-something at 35)

my 700+ save closer never made 1 all star game in his career. Thats wrong

[JPL86]

Originally Posted by le receveur

fip? K/9? Bb/9? IP? Leverage index?

team records,

Besides those stats I already provided (which were amazing enough)...
Leads all closers in FIP & WAR
Second in WHIP & K/9
Third in K/BB
Leads the other 3 CL that got nominated to All Star Game in IP.
My Team was in a dead heat for the division lead. And tied for the second best record in the NL.
Not sure what the heck Leverage Index is.


Now come on... you would have to be blind not to be able to see/determine that my closer is the best in the NL. How in the world could not just 1 or 2 closers beat him out.... but 3 closers beat him out?????

[Ike348]

Originally Posted by bobfrig

my 700+ save closer never made 1 all star game in his career. Thats wrong

Obviously he had a down year last year, but he's 36 and hopefully he can stick around until at least 40.

[le receveur]

subject still surprise me. why would you want a guy who pitches less than 5.5% of a team's innings to be in the all-star?

[Ike348]

Originally Posted by le receveur

subject still surprise me. why would you want a guy who pitches less than 5.5% of a team's innings to be in the all-star?

Good point... but closers are always in the ASG in real life so they should be in OOTP too.

[le receveur]

Originally Posted by Ike348

Good point... but closers are always in the ASG in real life so they should be in OOTP too.

interesting point. in my Solo in 2038 i figure baseball has evolved, so only the top 12 contributing pitchers make the ASG (using VORP since oWAR is still iffy)

actually wish i could kill the Save stat, which was deemed useless in 2019.

[Ike348]

Originally Posted by le receveur

actually wish i could kill the Save stat, which was deemed useless in 2019.

Good call!

[Honorable_Pawn]

Originally Posted by le receveur

I do to.. Always pick guys on other team with high bonuses to make all-star game. serves the GM for compensating some random popularity contest

[landru22]

Originally Posted by le receveur

subject still surprise me. why would you want a guy who pitches less than 5.5% of a team's innings to be in the all-star?

That's not the point. If you don't think closers are important enough to be all-stars, that's you're choice. Since the AI picked three OTHER closers to be on the all-star team over the users closer when the users closer had far superior stats, it indicates to me that there may be a problem with the code that makes those choices.

[le receveur]

Originally Posted by landru22

That's not the point. If you don't think closers are important enough to be all-stars, that's you're choice. Since the AI picked three OTHER closers to be on the all-star team over the users closer when the users closer had far superior stats, it indicates to me that there may be a problem with the code that makes those choices.

so what is the point? OP does not like the choice to the ASG. if anything, to me this sounds like OOTP has managed to reproduce real life. Maybe his team did not win the WS last year. Maybe his team doesn't have massive media exposure..

[le receveur]

Originally Posted by landru22

That's not the point. If you don't think closers are important enough to be all-stars, that's you're choice. Since the AI picked three OTHER closers to be on the all-star team over the users closer when the users closer had far superior stats, it indicates to me that there may be a problem with the code that makes those choices.

actually if one thing is broken in OOTP compared to RL it's gold glove, which I never see awarded to guys like Palmeiro or Jeter.... they always go to guys with great defensive numbers.

[Ike348]

Originally Posted by le receveur

actually if one thing is broken in OOTP compared to RL it's gold glove, which I never see awarded to guys like Palmeiro or Jeter.... they always go to guys with great defensive numbers.

and the MVP only goes to the hitter with the best offensive stats...

[Marinersfan51]

Originally Posted by le receveur

actually if one thing is broken in OOTP compared to RL it's gold glove, which I never see awarded to guys like Palmeiro or Jeter.... they always go to guys with great defensive numbers.

The last two years or so RL has started to award GGs properly.

[hfield007]

this is why i made a quick all-star voting thing for my league so i can't have ridiculous omissions or be bias by hand selecting.

[le receveur]

Originally Posted by Marinersfan51

The last two years or so RL has started to award GGs properly.

i have yet to see any defensive metric that shows Adam Jones as the top CF in the AL