Again, it's OOTP. Anything can Happen.

endgame · 01-29-2014, 02:52 PM

I don't post often about what happens in my games or leagues, but here's a perfect example of the "anything can happen" in this game, and in the game of baseball. Tied up, playing at Bisbee, bottom of the ninth and we're looking to take the game into extra innings.

I'll spare you the details, but the game ends because we walk a batter to get to a contact hitting, NO power, 23-yr-old shortstop who....hits a walk-off grand slam. Wow.... lose 7-3.

BIG17EASY · 01-29-2014, 03:12 PM

Just out of curiosity, was the guy you walked a stud hitter? That's a pretty high contact rate and avoid K's combination to actually WANT to face him with the bases loaded in a tie game in the bottom of the ninth. I'd expect a guy with those ratings to hit for a decent average (.300 or above), which makes him dangerous in that situation.

Not nitpicking your managing strategy. Just pointing out what I notice from the screeners.

endgame · 01-29-2014, 03:27 PM

No problem, good question, and I delegate those decisions to the manager. Here's the guy he walked, another LH, just like the shortstop.

BIG17EASY · 01-29-2014, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by endgame

No problem, good question, and I delegate those decisions to the manager. Here's the guy he walked, another LH, just like the shortstop.

Can't say I disagree with the AI's move. Seems to me it was basically a "pick your poison" type of thing. And at least by loading the bases, it opened up the potential for a force at any base.

tejdog1 · 01-30-2014, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

Can't say I disagree with the AI's move. Seems to me it was basically a "pick your poison" type of thing. And at least by loading the bases, it opened up the potential for a force at any base.

That guy who hit the granny "reminds" me of David Eckstein. I always hate (IRL) facing those kinds of hitters in game winning situations. Just as likely to dunk one just out of reach of everyone because they put the ball in play.

RchW · 01-30-2014, 01:49 PM

In real life I'd be asking the pitcher and catcher what they were thinking. Three foul balls in a row leaving the count at 1-2 calls for a pitch which is not a strike. High, high outside or in on the hands. Anywhere but the strike zone or hittable until 3-2. The book on him shows a below average eye so he obviously swings at non-strikes and makes contact vs striking out. With low power he's not going to hit HR on pitches off the plate.

Correct me if this is wrong but I believe that the play result is determined (HR) but the pitch sequence leading to it is random. I hope I'm wrong.

BIG17EASY · 01-30-2014, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

In real life I'd be asking the pitcher and catcher what they were thinking. Three foul balls in a row leaving the count at 1-2 calls for a pitch which is not a strike. High, high outside or in on the hands. Anywhere but the strike zone or hittable until 3-2. The book on him shows a below average eye so he obviously swings at non-strikes and makes contact vs striking out. With low power he's not going to hit HR on pitches off the plate.

Correct me if this is wrong but I believe that the play result is determined (HR) but the pitch sequence leading to it is random. I hope I'm wrong.

And that could've been the intent if this were real life, but some pitchers miss spots. Maybe it was meant to be a breaking ball in the dirt, but it hung right down the middle. It's also risky to purposely run a 3-2 count with the bases loaded in a tie game in the bottom of the ninth. I'd rather a guy beat me than walk in the winning run.

(Yes, I'm a Mets fan who still hates Kenny Rogers for walking in the series-clinching run in the bottom of the 11th of Game 6 of the NLCS.)

thehef · 01-30-2014, 03:21 PM

Was the pitcher Tom Niedenfuer?

RchW · 01-30-2014, 08:39 PM

Nm

95Marinerschangedmylife · 01-31-2014, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RchW

In real life I'd be asking the pitcher and catcher what they were thinking. Three foul balls in a row leaving the count at 1-2 calls for a pitch which is not a strike. High, high outside or in on the hands. Anywhere but the strike zone or hittable until 3-2. The book on him shows a below average eye so he obviously swings at non-strikes and makes contact vs striking out. With low power he's not going to hit HR on pitches off the plate.

Correct me if this is wrong but I believe that the play result is determined (HR) but the pitch sequence leading to it is random. I hope I'm wrong.

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe the batters theory was to take one pitch and then hack at everything else. Kind of late in the game but can we see the pitch location for this at bat?

BIG17EASY · 01-31-2014, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 95Marinerschangedmylife

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe the batters theory was to take one pitch and then hack at everything else. Kind of late in the game but can we see the pitch location for this at bat?

I'm 99% sure Markus has said that the pitch location widget is merely "cosmetic" (not sure that's his exact word, but it gets the point across) and does not show where the game engine actually generated the pitch locations, if the game engine even gets that detailed.

TribeFanInNC · 01-31-2014, 10:08 AM

So, what's the big deal?

Signed,
Bucky Dent

BIG17EASY · 01-31-2014, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TribeFanInNC

So, what's the big deal?

Signed,
Bucky Dent

You forgot his middle name.

Signed,
Closet Red Sox fan

DelinoDeShields · 01-31-2014, 11:14 AM

The problem here is stats and ratings are on.

Endgame, you know better than that.

01-29-2014, 02:52 PM	#1
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,842	Again, it's OOTP. Anything can Happen. I don't post often about what happens in my games or leagues, but here's a perfect example of the "anything can happen" in this game, and in the game of baseball. Tied up, playing at Bisbee, bottom of the ninth and we're looking to take the game into extra innings. I'll spare you the details, but the game ends because we walk a batter to get to a contact hitting, NO power, 23-yr-old shortstop who....hits a walk-off grand slam. Wow.... lose 7-3. Attached Images __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

01-29-2014, 03:27 PM	#3
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,842	No problem, good question, and I delegate those decisions to the manager. Here's the guy he walked, another LH, just like the shortstop. Attached Images __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

01-30-2014, 01:49 PM	#6
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	In real life I'd be asking the pitcher and catcher what they were thinking. Three foul balls in a row leaving the count at 1-2 calls for a pitch which is not a strike. High, high outside or in on the hands. Anywhere but the strike zone or hittable until 3-2. The book on him shows a below average eye so he obviously swings at non-strikes and makes contact vs striking out. With low power he's not going to hit HR on pitches off the plate. Correct me if this is wrong but I believe that the play result is determined (HR) but the pitch sequence leading to it is random. I hope I'm wrong. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

01-30-2014, 08:39 PM	#9
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Nm __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

01-29-2014, 03:12 PM	#2
BIG17EASY Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,291	Just out of curiosity, was the guy you walked a stud hitter? That's a pretty high contact rate and avoid K's combination to actually WANT to face him with the bases loaded in a tie game in the bottom of the ninth. I'd expect a guy with those ratings to hit for a decent average (.300 or above), which makes him dangerous in that situation. Not nitpicking your managing strategy. Just pointing out what I notice from the screeners.

01-30-2014, 03:21 PM	#8
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,345	Was the pitcher Tom Niedenfuer?

01-31-2014, 10:08 AM	#12
TribeFanInNC Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,019	So, what's the big deal? Signed, Bucky Dent

01-31-2014, 11:14 AM	#14
DelinoDeShields Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Florida, America. Posts: 54	The problem here is stats and ratings are on. Endgame, you know better than that.