Weight classes

LBWood · 01-17-2014, 03:40 AM

Sort of a basic question. If I have a boxer who is rated in more than one weight class, does the game automatically match opponents to use the same weight class ratings, or do I have to set the boxers' weight classes manually somewhere?

kenyan_cheena · 01-17-2014, 04:02 AM

You can select the default rating that you wish to use for the fighter at any given time. So you can simulate what has happened in reality with fighters such as Pacman, who has fought in multiple weight classes.

LBWood · 01-17-2014, 07:14 AM

Do I have to change the default back and forth as my boxer faces opponents in different weight classes, or will the game automatically switch away from the default? I don't want to give an unfair advantage when my default HW boxer goes up against LHW opponents.

Hanson Bros · 01-17-2014, 12:58 PM

There is something called "weight class adjust" in the fight options ... it is horrible ... if checked it will drastically adjust the ratings of a lower weight fighter ... make sure it is always unchecked ....

If your HW is facing a LHW fighter and the LHW fighter has a HW rating make sure HW is the default rating for the LHW ....

example

Fighter A = HW rated 8
Fighter B = LHW 8, HW 5

If you don't make the HW the default for the LHW fighter than it will be an 8 vs. an 8 .... if you have the weight class adjust checked it would be like an 8 vs. a 2 ...

hope that makes sense

Cap · 01-17-2014, 02:07 PM

I thought that was the whole purpose of the "weight class adjust" feature? I hope Paul is aware it doesn't work the way it should. I only use heavyweights so any light heavyweights that fought in the heavyweight class (Tami Mauriello, Jack Delaney, Ezzard Charles, etc) are rated as they were against heavies. Very few light heavyweights campaigned against heavyweights at under 12 stone 8 (180) back in the day. Just as cruiserweights pack on the pounds when they move up to challenge the behemoths nowadays.

Cap

LBWood · 01-17-2014, 09:44 PM

It would be nice if, in the example above, Fighter B automatically fought as a HW against Fighter A even when his default is LHW. It seems I'm going to have to go into the ratings and change the default before every bout. In which case, it should be in the fight options, should it not?

LBWood · 01-18-2014, 09:49 PM

I'm still a bit confused by this. Is there a way to check what rating was used for any particular fight? I took a look at my fighter's last bout. My fighter is rated for both LHW and HW, with LHW the default. In his last fight fight he was up against a boxer who is only rated HW. In the Personal History, it says that the division was HW. Was my boxer's LHW rating used? Is that why he got beat up so badly?

bob_bask · 01-19-2014, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LBWood

I'm still a bit confused by this. Is there a way to check what rating was used for any particular fight? I took a look at my fighter's last bout. My fighter is rated for both LHW and HW, with LHW the default. In his last fight fight he was up against a boxer who is only rated HW. In the Personal History, it says that the division was HW. Was my boxer's LHW rating used? Is that why he got beat up so badly?

He would of retained his LHW rating and been penalized for this if the Adjust for Weight Class differences was ticked.

LBWood · 01-19-2014, 09:10 PM

I don't believe "Adjust for Weight Class" was ticked, so I guess he fought the HW using his default LHW rating, straight up. There's very little difference between the LHW and HW rating, so I guess it doesn't really matter which is used?

IceTea · 01-20-2014, 01:49 PM

Bute is an example. I won't rate him at LHW because his SMW rating will perform accurately at the elevated weight class when "adjust for weight" is checked during a simulation. Other fighters, who change weight classes and compete in that weight class for an extended period of time will normally be rated in multiple weight classes. It is a judgement call.

Cap · 01-20-2014, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceTea

Bute is an example. I won't rate him at LHW because his SMW rating will perform accurately at the elevated weight class when "adjust for weight" is checked during a simulation. Other fighters, who change weight classes and compete in that weight class for an extended period of time will normally be rated in multiple weight classes. It is a judgement call.

What did you get when you ran Bute vs Pascal?

Cap

IceTea · 01-20-2014, 05:48 PM

75(37)-24(6)-1 for Pascal. That said, I'm going to rework the Pascal rating. His power number is likely too low.

01-17-2014, 03:40 AM	#1
LBWood Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Japan Posts: 34	Weight classes Sort of a basic question. If I have a boxer who is rated in more than one weight class, does the game automatically match opponents to use the same weight class ratings, or do I have to set the boxers' weight classes manually somewhere?

01-17-2014, 04:02 AM	#2
kenyan_cheena Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 9,037	You can select the default rating that you wish to use for the fighter at any given time. So you can simulate what has happened in reality with fighters such as Pacman, who has fought in multiple weight classes. Last edited by kenyan_cheena; 01-17-2014 at 04:59 AM.

01-17-2014, 12:58 PM	#4
Hanson Bros Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,006	There is something called "weight class adjust" in the fight options ... it is horrible ... if checked it will drastically adjust the ratings of a lower weight fighter ... make sure it is always unchecked .... If your HW is facing a LHW fighter and the LHW fighter has a HW rating make sure HW is the default rating for the LHW .... example Fighter A = HW rated 8 Fighter B = LHW 8, HW 5 If you don't make the HW the default for the LHW fighter than it will be an 8 vs. an 8 .... if you have the weight class adjust checked it would be like an 8 vs. a 2 ... hope that makes sense __________________ LBA UTBA3

01-17-2014, 02:07 PM	#5
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 8,066	I thought that was the whole purpose of the "weight class adjust" feature? I hope Paul is aware it doesn't work the way it should. I only use heavyweights so any light heavyweights that fought in the heavyweight class (Tami Mauriello, Jack Delaney, Ezzard Charles, etc) are rated as they were against heavies. Very few light heavyweights campaigned against heavyweights at under 12 stone 8 (180) back in the day. Just as cruiserweights pack on the pounds when they move up to challenge the behemoths nowadays. Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

01-20-2014, 01:49 PM	#10
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,851	Bute is an example. I won't rate him at LHW because his SMW rating will perform accurately at the elevated weight class when "adjust for weight" is checked during a simulation. Other fighters, who change weight classes and compete in that weight class for an extended period of time will normally be rated in multiple weight classes. It is a judgement call. __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/

01-17-2014, 07:14 AM	#3
LBWood Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Japan Posts: 34	Do I have to change the default back and forth as my boxer faces opponents in different weight classes, or will the game automatically switch away from the default? I don't want to give an unfair advantage when my default HW boxer goes up against LHW opponents.

01-17-2014, 09:44 PM	#6
LBWood Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Japan Posts: 34	It would be nice if, in the example above, Fighter B automatically fought as a HW against Fighter A even when his default is LHW. It seems I'm going to have to go into the ratings and change the default before every bout. In which case, it should be in the fight options, should it not?

01-18-2014, 09:49 PM	#7
LBWood Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Japan Posts: 34	I'm still a bit confused by this. Is there a way to check what rating was used for any particular fight? I took a look at my fighter's last bout. My fighter is rated for both LHW and HW, with LHW the default. In his last fight fight he was up against a boxer who is only rated HW. In the Personal History, it says that the division was HW. Was my boxer's LHW rating used? Is that why he got beat up so badly?

01-19-2014, 09:10 PM	#9
LBWood Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Japan Posts: 34	I don't believe "Adjust for Weight Class" was ticked, so I guess he fought the HW using his default LHW rating, straight up. There's very little difference between the LHW and HW rating, so I guess it doesn't really matter which is used?

01-20-2014, 05:48 PM	#12
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,851	75(37)-24(6)-1 for Pascal. That said, I'm going to rework the Pascal rating. His power number is likely too low. __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/ Last edited by IceTea; 01-20-2014 at 06:15 PM.