Date to Execute/Void Option Years

[pm129]

Hi all, I'm playing as the Phillies in a Major League game that's run to 2015 and, as you can imagine, the previous GM's habit of giving huge contracts to vets is starting to bite.

I've already palmed off Rollins to the Nats and I had to trade Hamels to get myself any budget at all for extensions last year (I got Josh Reddick and 45 Home Runs coming the other way, though!) and am now in a situation where I have Ryan Howard making $25m a year to hit .230 in AAA and Cliff Lee making similar to sit on the DL.

Lee, however, has an option coming up at the end of 2015 which I am planning to pass on (tough call eh?). Can anyone let me know the date of the decision being put to me in the game as, without freeing up that money I only have $1m for extensions and will lose a few decent players to Free Agency.

[Tycobbler]

Not quite sure i understand the question, but if you're asking when are you able to release Lee without losing any $$ the answer would be at seasons end.

[pm129]

Originally Posted by Tycobbler

Not quite sure i understand the question, but if you're asking when are you able to release Lee without losing any $$ the answer would be at seasons end.

Apologies, the question was really "at what date does the game give me a choice whether to execute or void his option year"? As usal, I have been too verbose!

[Tycobbler]

Not sure of the exact date, but i do remember it coming in an email before the start of the new year.

[bwburke94]

First day of the offseason.

[byzeil]

It being a Team Option means that you could release him now and the Option would be declined, you would only pay the remaining $$ on his contract for the current season. You do not have to wait for the game to ask you to make a decision.

If you had a player with 3 years left at $5mil/$5mil/$5mil(Team Opt) and you released him right now it would cost you $10 mil and the TO would not be picked up.

Edit: Though if there is a Buyout amount that amount would be charged to you.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by byzeil

It being a Team Option means that you could release him now and the Option would be declined, you would only pay the remaining $$ on his contract for the current season. You do not have to wait for the game to ask you to make a decision.

If you had a player with 3 years left at $5mil/$5mil/$5mil(Team Opt) and you released him right now it would cost you $10 mil and the TO would not be picked up.

Edit: Though if there is a Buyout amount that amount would be charged to you.

AFAIK that is not true. Any option that exists becomes confirmed if you release a player. So a player making $8M with an option for $10M if released halfway through the season would be paid $4M+$10M upon release. I'll check when I have a chance.

[le receveur]

Originally Posted by RchW

AFAIK that is not true. Any option that exists becomes confirmed if you release a player. So a player making $8M with an option for $10M if released halfway through the season would be paid $4M+$10M upon release. I'll check when I have a chance.

I just did a test. On releases

Team Option: Only on the hook for Buy outs.
Vesting Option: On hook for all of it, even if no chance they would reach
Player Option: on hook for the whole amount.

as for date, as above Day after WS ends. Though I have not tried to release a player with a non vested Vesting option during playoff to see what would happen. ill try when I get that...


EDIT: note that if you release the player, they will be upset at you and not re-sign. If you decline the option I have not had this problem, if that makes a difference for you (ie you want to re-sign Cliff next year for way less money)

EDIT2: I don't have players with a mix of options. so not sure how that is handled (the Adam Lind type contracts)

[RchW]

Originally Posted by le receveur

I just did a test. On releases

Team Option: Only on the hook for Buy outs.
Vesting Option: On hook for all of it, even if no chance they would reach
Player Option: on hook for the whole amount.

as for date, as above Day after WS ends. Though I have not tried to release a player with a non vested Vesting option during playoff to see what would happen. ill try when I get that...


EDIT: note that if you release the player, they will be upset at you and not re-sign. If you decline the option I have not had this problem, if that makes a difference for you (ie you want to re-sign Cliff next year for way less money)

EDIT2: I don't have players with a mix of options. so not sure how that is handled (the Adam Lind type contracts)

Is that correct IRL? If it is then no problem. If not then it should be fixed.

[le receveur]

Originally Posted by RchW

Is that correct IRL? If it is then no problem. If not then it should be fixed.

from RL. Player and Team options are for sure correct. Vesting, you would be able to negotiate with the player.

Like Roy you have a $20M contract that Vests if you pitch 200 innings this year, it's July 31st you have pitched 25 innings, and you are on the DL so it will never happen, however my accountant's rules force me to keep your option on the book for next year until the end of the WS. Here is $2M to cancel the option, is that good for you?

EDIT: i'm pretty sure in RL if you void option 1, all the other ones are also voided at no cost, ie Adam Lind being declined last October, Jays would not be on the hook for the buyout on the 2015 option. Not sure how OOTP handles it

[tejdog1]

Originally Posted by pm129

Hi all, I'm playing as the Phillies in a Major League game that's run to 2015 and, as you can imagine, the previous GM's habit of giving huge contracts to vets is starting to bite.

I've already palmed off Rollins to the Nats and I had to trade Hamels to get myself any budget at all for extensions last year (I got Josh Reddick and 45 Home Runs coming the other way, though!) and am now in a situation where I have Ryan Howard making $25m a year to hit .230 in AAA and Cliff Lee making similar to sit on the DL.

Lee, however, has an option coming up at the end of 2015 which I am planning to pass on (tough call eh?). Can anyone let me know the date of the decision being put to me in the game as, without freeing up that money I only have $1m for extensions and will lose a few decent players to Free Agency.

After the playoffs end, you will get an email with "the last year of _________'s contract is a ____________ option. Decide now!" and then in the bottom right there's a "respond to message" drop up menu.

[le receveur]

Originally Posted by tejdog1

After the playoffs end, you will get an email with "the last year of _________'s contract is a ____________ option. Decide now!" and then in the bottom right there's a "respond to message" drop up menu.

that's for Team option only.

Players option will tell you if players as elected.

Vesting option will tell you if met, and if not consequences (ie FA or still under team contract and arbitration bound)

edit: and to be precise, the email is when Off season start. you have time between the end of the WS and Off-Season start to take actions on contract. (this is useful if you want to buy out to be part of last year's budget, and you have extra revenue coming from playoff appearance)