Career Stage Ratings Confusion

Cap · 01-16-2014, 07:51 PM

I'm sure there are a few new owners out there wondering about this, so I'm going to take the bull by the horns and admit that the multiple ratings and career stages confuses the hell out of me still. That's why I was sticking with version 2.0 for so long. You created a fighter in Prime, ran his career starting at Beginner and using Auto-Aging, ran him until the end then retired him. I usually reset him to Beginner in the hope I would live long enough to use him again.

Now I look at the newer versions and see something that puzzles me still. Take this for instance.(See pic) So many arrows. Which should be the default? And why the arrows to change the stage in here? Why not just have it like it was before (Old Guy Complains Again, I know) where you had the primary ratings and let the auto-aging change him? Is this to accommodate the active fighters being created?

This guy pictured has two separate ratings. Prime and Beginning, but if you click on the arrows you can change those too. I see one Rating appears to be the original one from TB1. Was the other auto-generated when I did a mass edit and changed a bunch of guys back to Beginner?

Gunsmoke tried to explain this to me, but I'm too dense to understand.

Cap

Cap · 01-17-2014, 02:11 PM

Nothing, eh?

Can someone at least point to a "Career Stages for Dummies" thread?

Cap

EDIT: It's only just occurred to me (I'm thick) that the multiple Career Stages thing has been around since at least version 2.0 but I never used it because I always used historic/inactive boxers whose prime was pretty much defined. I used that prime version of them to create ratings back in the original Title Bout and I've just been transferring them over from one version to the next. So each of my heavyweights had one set of Prime ratings and I relied on the auto-aging feature when that made changing career stages automatic. It appears that it is now necessary to create multiple sets of ratings for each career stage. Is that correct?

DJgreen_72 · 01-17-2014, 02:49 PM

From my, admittedly limited, knowledge the CS adjust must be checked to allow the computer to re-rate fighters as they move from beginner to pre to prime to post to end...without it checked the fighter will keep the same ratings as he moves from one career stage to another. Not sure how it works with auto aging as I never really use that feature but I assume it needs to be checked for auto aging to work porperly...not sure if that helps at all

Cap · 01-17-2014, 08:12 PM

So Auto-Aging just advances "Career Stages" without having any real effect on ratings from one stage to the next?

Does having multiple career ratings replace "CS Adjust"? Or is having "CS Adjust" checked what generates multiple career ratings?

Cap

LBWood · 01-17-2014, 09:49 PM

So, to summarize, if I am playing a boxer's career from Beginning onward (by selecting the stage in the fight options), I need to check CS Adjust in order to have his Prime rating in the game adjusted to lesser stages? If I don't, I'll have my Beginner boxer fight as Prime?

DJgreen_72 · 01-18-2014, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LBWood

So, to summarize, if I am playing a boxer's career from Beginning onward (by selecting the stage in the fight options), I need to check CS Adjust in order to have his Prime rating in the game adjusted to lesser stages? If I don't, I'll have my Beginner boxer fight as Prime?

Yes...and the opposite is true as well, if a fighter is rated say 7 at preprime, if the CS adjust is not checked, he will remain a 7 when he jumps to prime

Cap · 01-18-2014, 08:33 AM

Funny, I've read numerous comments that CS Adjust adversely impacts fighter ratings. So what do these other gamers do to account for changes during a career? Are they manually creating separate ratings for each stage from Beginner to END?

Cap

Claybor · 01-18-2014, 12:53 PM

At the start of a universe I grab all the fighters and use the batch adjustment feature to make sure they are all set the way I want them, that includes making sure that the CS adjust is set for all. I then adjust them all to beginners. This re rates them all from their 'prime default' rating down to beginners using whatever formula the game uses. From that point on they will use my ranges for advances in career stages and be re rated again with each step. When they reach prime they should be pretty close to the original 'prime default' rating but probably not exact as the in game formula isn't that precise. (This last part is an opinion, but I believe that's the way it works.)

If you don't hit CS adjust at all the fighter will fight at his prime rating throughout his career.

Cap · 01-18-2014, 02:08 PM

That's what I was always doing before. Then I started reading comments here that CS Adjust was making overly radical adjustments to ratings and it was better to go without it. But unless you create separate ratings for each stage yourself, a fighter's ratings will not progress at all between stages.

Cap

01-16-2014, 07:51 PM	#1
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 8,045	Career Stage Ratings Confusion I'm sure there are a few new owners out there wondering about this, so I'm going to take the bull by the horns and admit that the multiple ratings and career stages confuses the hell out of me still. That's why I was sticking with version 2.0 for so long. You created a fighter in Prime, ran his career starting at Beginner and using Auto-Aging, ran him until the end then retired him. I usually reset him to Beginner in the hope I would live long enough to use him again. Now I look at the newer versions and see something that puzzles me still. Take this for instance.(See pic) So many arrows. Which should be the default? And why the arrows to change the stage in here? Why not just have it like it was before (Old Guy Complains Again, I know) where you had the primary ratings and let the auto-aging change him? Is this to accommodate the active fighters being created? This guy pictured has two separate ratings. Prime and Beginning, but if you click on the arrows you can change those too. I see one Rating appears to be the original one from TB1. Was the other auto-generated when I did a mass edit and changed a bunch of guys back to Beginner? Gunsmoke tried to explain this to me, but I'm too dense to understand. Cap Attached Images __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.." Last edited by Cap; 01-16-2014 at 08:00 PM.

01-17-2014, 02:11 PM	#2
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 8,045	Nothing, eh? Can someone at least point to a "Career Stages for Dummies" thread? Cap EDIT: It's only just occurred to me (I'm thick) that the multiple Career Stages thing has been around since at least version 2.0 but I never used it because I always used historic/inactive boxers whose prime was pretty much defined. I used that prime version of them to create ratings back in the original Title Bout and I've just been transferring them over from one version to the next. So each of my heavyweights had one set of Prime ratings and I relied on the auto-aging feature when that made changing career stages automatic. It appears that it is now necessary to create multiple sets of ratings for each career stage. Is that correct? __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.." Last edited by Cap; 01-17-2014 at 02:34 PM.

01-17-2014, 08:12 PM	#4
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 8,045	So Auto-Aging just advances "Career Stages" without having any real effect on ratings from one stage to the next? Does having multiple career ratings replace "CS Adjust"? Or is having "CS Adjust" checked what generates multiple career ratings? Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.." Last edited by Cap; 01-17-2014 at 08:14 PM.

01-18-2014, 08:33 AM	#7
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 8,045	Funny, I've read numerous comments that CS Adjust adversely impacts fighter ratings. So what do these other gamers do to account for changes during a career? Are they manually creating separate ratings for each stage from Beginner to END? Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

01-18-2014, 02:08 PM	#9
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 8,045	That's what I was always doing before. Then I started reading comments here that CS Adjust was making overly radical adjustments to ratings and it was better to go without it. But unless you create separate ratings for each stage yourself, a fighter's ratings will not progress at all between stages. Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

01-17-2014, 02:49 PM	#3
DJgreen_72 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 176	From my, admittedly limited, knowledge the CS adjust must be checked to allow the computer to re-rate fighters as they move from beginner to pre to prime to post to end...without it checked the fighter will keep the same ratings as he moves from one career stage to another. Not sure how it works with auto aging as I never really use that feature but I assume it needs to be checked for auto aging to work porperly...not sure if that helps at all

01-17-2014, 09:49 PM	#5
LBWood Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Japan Posts: 34	So, to summarize, if I am playing a boxer's career from Beginning onward (by selecting the stage in the fight options), I need to check CS Adjust in order to have his Prime rating in the game adjusted to lesser stages? If I don't, I'll have my Beginner boxer fight as Prime?

01-18-2014, 12:53 PM	#8
Claybor All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,360 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	At the start of a universe I grab all the fighters and use the batch adjustment feature to make sure they are all set the way I want them, that includes making sure that the CS adjust is set for all. I then adjust them all to beginners. This re rates them all from their 'prime default' rating down to beginners using whatever formula the game uses. From that point on they will use my ranges for advances in career stages and be re rated again with each step. When they reach prime they should be pretty close to the original 'prime default' rating but probably not exact as the in game formula isn't that precise. (This last part is an opinion, but I believe that's the way it works.) If you don't hit CS adjust at all the fighter will fight at his prime rating throughout his career.