Amateur Players

Becks910 · 12-13-2001, 03:10 PM

What if....

Instead of knowing the amateur's ratings before the draft, have the amateur's play in their own league consisting of 8 teams (number of teams obviously subject to change). Put the next year's amateur's in this league and have them play each other. Then, the team owner's would have to scout to see who to draft, rather than just pull up the list of talents. Furthermore, you could add scouts and the scouts could be rated (From bad to good or whatever) and they could tell you who the best players are (in case the player has a bad year in the amateur league).

If you don't understand what I just tried to say, let me know and I will try to explain it better. If you do understand, post a response...I'd like to hear what you think.

ps - the word "you" in the last paragraph refers to everyone

Becks910 · 12-14-2001, 10:24 AM

Injuries would have to be turned off in this "amateur league"

Becks910 · 01-13-2002, 04:59 PM

or would they?

GR8Madmax · 01-16-2002, 03:43 AM

I agree that having more details about the players in the amateur draft will be very good. Whether or not a league is necessary for this is debatable. I personally love drafting and enjoy watching the players that I drafted develop into MLB players or end up getting lost in the free agent world.

Becks910 · 01-16-2002, 01:39 PM

I guess my main point here is that drafting in the real MLB is a very challenging and is a time consuming process. Just as much time needs to be put in to it as say free agency, but the way it is set up now, drafting is not a challenge. You throughly look through the list of players once and you are good to go. Perhaps a league is not needed to make the process more of a challenge, but I would be in favor of seeing something done. Any ideas?

Kevin · 01-17-2002, 02:43 AM

I know it's too late for version 4, but I like the multiple scouts and assignments used in Eastside Hockey Manager. Basically you send out your scouts to countries or regions to find prospects. The best finds can then be put on a short list for your top scout to look at and re-rate. That way preparation for the draft is a year long event.

GR8Madmax · 01-17-2002, 05:02 AM

Kevin
I like your idea of having a list of players to be scouted. The rest can be rated by an "average" scout. Scouting might also be better if it's split up into every month or x number of weeks. This can be a good distraction for the majority that plays solo. I was told not to expect anything like overseas scouting/players anytime soon.

Steve Kuffrey · 01-17-2002, 05:16 AM

In regards to the scouting foreign players, anything that we would do in that area would merely be random and the number of impact players that this aspect of scouting currently brings in is just not enough for this to be included.

I mean how many leagues or teams would you have to scout? How many players? How much more would the game be slowed by something like this?

If it is an important area for you then make up some players and create them to come into your league. I don't mean to place this in a negative light but it is just not a priority right now.

Besides if you look at the teams that bid on players from overseas it is normally only 3-6.

Chappy · 01-17-2002, 06:03 AM

Can players be exported/imported from league to league?

For instance, if I wanted to emulate collegiate baseball could I create a separate league, run it a season after my main league's season has ended, and export all players with four years experience into my main league's draft pool?

I used to do something similar to that in BBPro.

[ January 17, 2002: Message edited by: Chappy ]</p>

Steve Kuffrey · 01-17-2002, 06:10 AM

Yes they can using Pierre's editor. This would work as far as I know.

Chappy · 01-18-2002, 01:15 AM

Thanks.

I haven't fooled around with Pierre's editor yet. I guess that will give me something to do this (holiday) weekend.

12-13-2001, 03:10 PM	#1
Becks910 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 23	Amateur Players What if.... Instead of knowing the amateur's ratings before the draft, have the amateur's play in their own league consisting of 8 teams (number of teams obviously subject to change). Put the next year's amateur's in this league and have them play each other. Then, the team owner's would have to scout to see who to draft, rather than just pull up the list of talents. Furthermore, you could add scouts and the scouts could be rated (From bad to good or whatever) and they could tell you who the best players are (in case the player has a bad year in the amateur league). If you don't understand what I just tried to say, let me know and I will try to explain it better. If you do understand, post a response...I'd like to hear what you think. ps - the word "you" in the last paragraph refers to everyone __________________ David Becker <a href="http://www.sportplanet.com/sbb/vesuvius/CBL/Main/CBLindex.htm" target="_blank">CBL Baltimore Orioles GM</a> <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/sd/Cyclones/AFBL.html" target="_blank">AFBL Chairman</a>

12-14-2001, 10:24 AM	#2
Becks910 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 23	Injuries would have to be turned off in this "amateur league" __________________ David Becker <a href="http://www.sportplanet.com/sbb/vesuvius/CBL/Main/CBLindex.htm" target="_blank">CBL Baltimore Orioles GM</a> <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/sd/Cyclones/AFBL.html" target="_blank">AFBL Chairman</a>

01-13-2002, 04:59 PM	#3
Becks910 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 23	or would they? __________________ David Becker <a href="http://www.sportplanet.com/sbb/vesuvius/CBL/Main/CBLindex.htm" target="_blank">CBL Baltimore Orioles GM</a> <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/sd/Cyclones/AFBL.html" target="_blank">AFBL Chairman</a>

01-16-2002, 01:39 PM	#5
Becks910 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 23	I guess my main point here is that drafting in the real MLB is a very challenging and is a time consuming process. Just as much time needs to be put in to it as say free agency, but the way it is set up now, drafting is not a challenge. You throughly look through the list of players once and you are good to go. Perhaps a league is not needed to make the process more of a challenge, but I would be in favor of seeing something done. Any ideas? __________________ David Becker <a href="http://www.sportplanet.com/sbb/vesuvius/CBL/Main/CBLindex.htm" target="_blank">CBL Baltimore Orioles GM</a> <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/sd/Cyclones/AFBL.html" target="_blank">AFBL Chairman</a>

01-17-2002, 02:43 AM	#6
Kevin All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 503	I know it's too late for version 4, but I like the multiple scouts and assignments used in Eastside Hockey Manager. Basically you send out your scouts to countries or regions to find prospects. The best finds can then be put on a short list for your top scout to look at and re-rate. That way preparation for the draft is a year long event. __________________ It seems more like today than it did all day yesterday.

01-16-2002, 03:43 AM	#4
GR8Madmax Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 94	I agree that having more details about the players in the amateur draft will be very good. Whether or not a league is necessary for this is debatable. I personally love drafting and enjoy watching the players that I drafted develop into MLB players or end up getting lost in the free agent world.

01-17-2002, 05:02 AM	#7
GR8Madmax Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 94	Kevin I like your idea of having a list of players to be scouted. The rest can be rated by an "average" scout. Scouting might also be better if it's split up into every month or x number of weeks. This can be a good distraction for the majority that plays solo. I was told not to expect anything like overseas scouting/players anytime soon.

01-17-2002, 05:16 AM	#8
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	In regards to the scouting foreign players, anything that we would do in that area would merely be random and the number of impact players that this aspect of scouting currently brings in is just not enough for this to be included. I mean how many leagues or teams would you have to scout? How many players? How much more would the game be slowed by something like this? If it is an important area for you then make up some players and create them to come into your league. I don't mean to place this in a negative light but it is just not a priority right now. Besides if you look at the teams that bid on players from overseas it is normally only 3-6. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

01-17-2002, 06:03 AM	#9
Chappy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,721	Can players be exported/imported from league to league? For instance, if I wanted to emulate collegiate baseball could I create a separate league, run it a season after my main league's season has ended, and export all players with four years experience into my main league's draft pool? I used to do something similar to that in BBPro. [ January 17, 2002: Message edited by: Chappy ]</p> __________________ NPBL - Pennsylvania Freedom AFBL - North Carolina Aviators MLB-Pro - Kansas City Royals

01-17-2002, 06:10 AM	#10
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Yes they can using Pierre's editor. This would work as far as I know. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

01-18-2002, 01:15 AM	#11
Chappy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,721	Thanks. I haven't fooled around with Pierre's editor yet. I guess that will give me something to do this (holiday) weekend. __________________ NPBL - Pennsylvania Freedom AFBL - North Carolina Aviators MLB-Pro - Kansas City Royals