For those of you looking for expansion cities

[Ike348]

Originally Posted by Padreman

In have 4 leagues, well 2 leagues with 2 sub leagues each. It's a fictional league with US cities American League, National League. Federal League and Union League I have 13 teams per league but does not work well to come up with a proper schedule with interleague so I will expand 1 team
Per sub league to have 14 each. I have all of these cities already listed here exemption to Austin and San Bernardino.
I don't want multiple teams in any city.

So basically I will have to use best of the rest.
So I think Austin for sure but San Bernardino? Not too sure I always assume they just a off-shot of LA metro area.

So what's left?
Tulsa?
Boise?
Tucson?
Fresno?
Rochester and Albany but that region is already loaded with teams.
Knoxville?
El Paso?

Population is important, what else will bring a team there? Location, things to do?
What other 3 cities would be ideal?

I'd go with Boise. Not too many teams up there.

[The Wolf]

San Bernadino is way east of Los Angeles.

[Padreman]

Your right I just checked hour and 18 minutes east of LA

[Padreman]

Originally Posted by Ike348

I'd go with Boise. Not too many teams up there.

I like Boise's location but it's metro and city population are small

[chucksabr]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Children seeing their parents murdered before their eyes tends to make for lifetime grudges. Besides the murders, there were things like gang rape, torture, mutilation, grand theft and the deliberate starving of people to death in prison camps. I don't blame the Cuban émigrés a bit for their grudges. A friend of mine survived a much more recent African revolution that cost her all but one member of her family and left her with a pronounced limp. She has the same kind of grudges.

Terrible things happen when bandits take over a country.

I think Americans should be free to visit Cuba if they want to.

[Padreman]

Originally Posted by chucksabr

I think Americans should be free to visit Cuba if they want to.

If I had the money to buy the worst NHL team and move it to any major canadian city without a team I would make bank same if I moved to team to Havana, San Juan or Santo Domingo

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by chucksabr

I think Americans should be free to visit Cuba if they want to.

But you're not an American, so your opinion about that doesn't matter. I think the British should be free to keep and bear arms, but since I'm an American that doesn't matter either.

I think that the Cuban people should be free from the evil scourge of Communism. Then we could visit them and they could visit us. But the Cuban government doesn't care what I think, either.

[omniart]

I always prefer Urban Areas populations to Metropolitan Area populations, though their overall rankings are rather similar.

Wikipedia also has a list of U.S. Metropolitan Areas ranked by GDP. In this list, Portland and Charlotte are the two highest ranked cities (20 and 21) without a baseball team. Also noteworthy: Indianapolis (25), Riverside-San Bernardino (26), Orlando (30), Columbus (31), Austin (32), Sacramento (33), Las Vegas (34), Nashville (35), San Antonio (36). Vegas has taken a bit of a tumble since the housing bubble burst in 2008.

The New York area is more than capable of supporting a third team, either in New Jersey or Connecticut.

The Oakland A's would move to San Jose if it weren't for the San Francisco Giants protecting their territory.

Las Vegas would be a prime expansion spot if it weren't for the gambling.

I remember some speculation, years ago, on placing a team in Monterrey, Mexico: it's metropolitan area is north of four million. Not a likely spot but certainly a possibility.

Personally, I think the best spots would be Charlotte and a third New York area team.

[Le Grande Orange]

I will simply point out that the econometric studies I have seen all indicate the per capita income of the area is also an important consideration. That's why San Juan, PR, doesn't rate highly as an expansion site. While the city has a large population, the per capita income is quite low compared to most American cities.

[omniart]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

I will simply point out that the econometric studies I have seen all indicate the per capita income of the area is also an important consideration. That's why San Juan, PR, doesn't rate highly as an expansion site. While the city has a large population, the per capita income is quite low compared to most American cities.

This even affects Canadian cities. Vancouver's metropolitan area population (2.3 million) is slightly better than Portland (2.2 million), but according to the following Wiki article, Portland's GDP ($140 billion) I significantly higher than Vancouver's GDP ($104 billion).

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_GDP

Toronto's GDP seems comparable to U.S. cities of similar size, but Montreal (metro population 3.8 million) has a lower GDP ($142 billion) than smaller U.S. cties like Denver (2.9 million people, $150 billion) and Baltimore (2.7 million people, $152 billion).

[Ike348]

Talking about Portland, every year, when I went to Vancouver, WA to visit family, I would go to a Portland Beavers AAA game. A couple of years ago, they left. They couldn't get the support, as Portland fans leaned towards the MLS team, the Timbers.

So if you look at a sheet of numbers, Portland could really support an MLB team. However, realistically, they couldn't.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by omniart

This even affects Canadian cities. Vancouver's metropolitan area population (2.3 million) is slightly better than Portland (2.2 million), but according to the following Wiki article, Portland's GDP ($140 billion) I significantly higher than Vancouver's GDP ($104 billion).

That would no doubt be affected by the exchange rate, which can vary considerably.

Originally Posted by Ike348

Talking about Portland, every year, when I went to Vancouver, WA to visit family, I would go to a Portland Beavers AAA game. A couple of years ago, they left. They couldn't get the support, as Portland fans leaned towards the MLS team, the Timbers.

The team was supported fine (certainly no worse than some other PCL teams). The problem was no suitable location could be found for a new park, so the club was eventually sold and moved elsewhere. (Perhaps ironically, the club was originally to be moved to the San Diego suburb of Escondido, but the plans to build a new park there fell also fell through. The club will be in El Paso, TX, for the 2014 season.)

[The Wolf]

LGO, that's exactly what I heard.

There's no reason why Portland could not support an MLB team, if there was a proper stadium for one.

[The Wolf]

Or, to be humorous about it: "If you build it, they will come."

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

There's no reason why Portland could not support an MLB team, if there was a proper stadium for one.

Some years back the city of Portland put together a proposal for getting a major league team. It was filled with the typical stuff touting the city, but also with some projected financial data on how the team would fare. A Google search ought to turn it up for those interested in taking a look at it.

['94 EXPOS]

Montreal Baseball Project just released it's feasability study for the return of baseball to Montreal.

It know it would work the seoncd time around. The previous ownership and stadium were a disaster.

If you care at all please support the cause!!!!

[Padreman]

Originally Posted by '94 EXPOS

Montreal Baseball Project just released it's feasability study for the return of baseball to Montreal.

It know it would work the seoncd time around. The previous ownership and stadium were a disaster.

If you care at all please support the cause!!!!

I don't let it never return there









Just kidding