Scouting players/auto-saving on Jan. 1st

slugga27 · 12-10-2013, 08:51 PM

Does anyone else have issues when players are re-scouted and the game auto-saves at the end of each "year"? It takes an exceptionally long time for the re-scout and auto-save to complete, longer than it does at any other point in the season. OOTP even indicates that it's "not responding". Fortunately, it snaps out of this and does return to normal; however, I just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this.

RchW · 12-10-2013, 09:11 PM

The transition to Jan 1 requires a kind of close out housekeeping for the year in question. It also produces if enabled, an Almanac.

If you look carefully many files are being written to disk as of Dec 31. These files are useful for those of us who compare stat output from year to year.

JPL86 · 12-11-2013, 08:47 AM

Yes, this always scares me. Feels like the game will never return, and crash. That's why I usually back up my files at the end of the season (usually after the free agent list is created), then again at the start of the regular season. And even a third time mid-season if I've made a lot of changes to my team.

But that Jan. 1st thing always worries me.

Bluenoser · 12-11-2013, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JPL86

Yes, this always scares me. Feels like the game will never return, and crash. That's why I usually back up my files at the end of the season (usually after the free agent list is created), then again at the start of the regular season. And even a third time mid-season if I've made a lot of changes to my team.

But that Jan. 1st thing always worries me.

Not sure why you would worry about that. It's a normal function of the game and has worked fine for many versions.

Definitely a good idea to make regular back-ups of league file though, regardless of the Jan 1 turnover.

The Game · 12-11-2013, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JPL86

Yes, this always scares me. Feels like the game will never return, and crash. That's why I usually back up my files at the end of the season (usually after the free agent list is created), then again at the start of the regular season. And even a third time mid-season if I've made a lot of changes to my team.

But that Jan. 1st thing always worries me.

Depends on the size of your league. I always exit & reboot my system Dec 31st, go back into th game then advance. Takes no more then 5 mins, usually. My league is 900MB - 2 GB range. I stopped using the almanac which would take 2+ hrs.

slugga27 · 12-11-2013, 12:41 PM

My point by starting this thread is that this is not how it used to be. The previous couple of patches have seemingly slowed it down. For reference, it's an MLB game, started in 2013, with no changes regarding minor league levels and no feeders have been added. It just switched over to 2015, and I've noticed it at the end of both 2013 and 2014.

I don't keep almanacs, box scores, etc, so that, again, wouldn't be an issue.

Fyrestorm3 · 12-11-2013, 01:55 PM

A lot of this depends on how fast your computer is, too.

It's always taken somewhere around 15 minutes for me - including having it "stop responding" (which it actually doesn't, that's just Windows freaking out over the process). No patches or newer versions have changed this.

slugga27 · 12-11-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

A lot of this depends on how fast your computer is, too.

It's always taken somewhere around 15 minutes for me - including having it "stop responding" (which it actually doesn't, that's just Windows freaking out over the process). No patches or newer versions have changed this.

I originally put my specs in my previous post, but decided against it at the last minute because I know that's not contributing to the problem.

In any event, I have an i7 processor with a 1 TB hard drive. There's virtually nothing on this computer, either...aside from OOTP, just Microsoft Office and iTunes.

BIG17EASY · 12-11-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by slugga27

I originally put my specs in my previous post, but decided against it at the last minute because I know that's not contributing to the problem.

In any event, I have an i7 processor with a 1 TB hard drive. There's virtually nothing on this computer, either...aside from OOTP, just Microsoft Office and iTunes.

Like others have said, it also has a lot to do with the size of your league and what (if any) almanac options you have chosen. So even on a fast machine, if it's a deep league that needs to write a lot of almanac info, it's going to take a while no matter what.

EDIT: Sorry, just saw your previous post that says you don't have any almanac options on. Still, a standard MLB league is fairly large due to all the minor league teams. My MLB league takes much longer to turn over to the new year than my fictional league with 18 teams and three minor league levels. You basically just have to resign yourself to the fact that when you advance from Dec. 31 to Jan. 1, you're not going to be able to do anything for probably 10-15 minutes, maybe longer.

slugga27 · 12-11-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

Like others have said, it also has a lot to do with the size of your league and what (if any) almanac options you have chosen. So even on a fast machine, if it's a deep league that needs to write a lot of almanac info, it's going to take a while no matter what.

See my previous post. I don't keep almanacs, box score and all that jazz. I even turn off baseball cards because I don't want to sit through the game creating baseball cards for awards and All-Star selections.

BIG17EASY · 12-11-2013, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by slugga27

See my previous post. I don't keep almanacs, box score and all that jazz. I even turn off baseball cards because I don't want to sit through the game creating baseball cards for awards and All-Star selections.

Realized that after I posted, and just edited my original post. Sorry.

slugga27 · 12-11-2013, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

Realized that after I posted, and just edited my original post. Sorry.

No worries. I guess the "good" thing is that it's not just my computer that's taking a long time at that point. I can always just go do something else when going from year to year.

The Game · 12-11-2013, 09:58 PM

Slugga how big is your league? Mine is 2.42 GB. My PC is slower then yours. My transition from the 31st to the 1st took under 15 mins close to 10 mins. I have 5 ML full minors in MLB with full history. Is it slower since some of these patches, yes but not overly slow.

slugga27 · 12-11-2013, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Game

Slugga how big is your league? Mine is 2.42 GB. My PC is slower then yours. My transition from the 31st to the 1st took under 15 mins close to 10 mins. I have 5 ML full minors in MLB with full history. Is it slower since some of these patches, yes but not overly slow.

502 MB. Like I said earlier, this isn't something that happened prior to the past few patches, at least in my experience. And those experiences include all the way back to OOTP 11. But really, I'm far less concerned about it now than I once was because it seems to be the norm.

Unfortuantely, when I switched over to 2015 (did it yesterday), I didn't time how long it took. If I had to guess, I'd say more than 5 but less than 10 minutes.

12-10-2013, 08:51 PM	#1
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12-10-2013, 09:11 PM	#2
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12-11-2013, 09:58 PM	#13
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	Slugga how big is your league? Mine is 2.42 GB. My PC is slower then yours. My transition from the 31st to the 1st took under 15 mins close to 10 mins. I have 5 ML full minors in MLB with full history. Is it slower since some of these patches, yes but not overly slow. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

12-11-2013, 08:47 AM	#3
JPL86 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 170	Yes, this always scares me. Feels like the game will never return, and crash. That's why I usually back up my files at the end of the season (usually after the free agent list is created), then again at the start of the regular season. And even a third time mid-season if I've made a lot of changes to my team. But that Jan. 1st thing always worries me.

12-11-2013, 12:41 PM	#6
slugga27 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,272	My point by starting this thread is that this is not how it used to be. The previous couple of patches have seemingly slowed it down. For reference, it's an MLB game, started in 2013, with no changes regarding minor league levels and no feeders have been added. It just switched over to 2015, and I've noticed it at the end of both 2013 and 2014. I don't keep almanacs, box scores, etc, so that, again, wouldn't be an issue.

12-11-2013, 01:55 PM	#7
Fyrestorm3 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, Massachusetts Posts: 2,928	A lot of this depends on how fast your computer is, too. It's always taken somewhere around 15 minutes for me - including having it "stop responding" (which it actually doesn't, that's just Windows freaking out over the process). No patches or newer versions have changed this.