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Old 12-04-2013, 05:52 PM   #1
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strange roster/transaction happenings

In doing some testing and goofing around (historical) in order to familiarize myself with OOTP 14 (before converting from v12), I came across a couple of strange things:

FIRST ISSUE
In the last week of the 1966 season the NL race is tight, so I check to see what pitching matchups are coming up. When looking at the Dodgers rotation I see that they only have 8 pitchers on the active roster. Perranoski and Singer are on the DL, so that explains part of it. But I’m wondering where the reserve-roster types are. I check the free agents list and find that guys like John Purdin and Mike Kekich are there, and further research indicates that OOTP had the Dodgers release both of them on 1/1/1966.

In reality, Purdin and Kekich appeared for a few games on the Dodgers in 1965, then spent the 1966 season entirely in the Dodger’s minor-league organization (before reappearing on the Dodgers in later years). I’m assuming OOTP's Real Transactions module will have these two players – and others – re-sign with the Dodgers just prior to the season in which they make their major league reappearances. However, this doesn’t seem right. This sort of logic strips a team of its minor-league or reserve roster depth.

This seems to be a change from v12, where - when using real transactions - you can still end up with a well-stocked Triple-A level after a few years.

When I (hopefully) convert from v12 to v14, will it be possible to use in v14 the transactions file I am currently using in v12 in order to avoid this depletion scenario?

SECOND ISSUE
After the Dodgers survived a 3-way tie for first, they moved on to the World Series. After the first two games (pitched by Moeller and Sutton, as Koufax and Drysdale pitched in the NL playoff games), I looked to see the state of LA’s staff. I found that all starters were either exhausted or tired (granted, I had yet to advance to the next day, which will be an off day between games 2 and 3). So, looking individually to see just how tired these guys were, I noticed that both Sutton and Osteen were exhausted from pitching "today." Here’s where it gets weird…

Sutton threw nine innings of game two, so of course he was tired. However, Osteen did not pitch. In fact, Osteen had not pitched since 1965 - and that was just one game (see attachments).


Two things here jump out as odd:
  1. Why is the game showing that Osteen threw 109 pitches "today"?
  2. While I understand that Osteen’s OOTP career appeared to over after the 1964 season due to injuries, how did he end up on the Dodgers? There is no indication in his history that they signed him. I know that in reality that he was traded from Washington to LA in December ’64, but if he retired in OOTP in Oct ’64, why isn’t there any indication of his unretirement, and of his trade to, or signing by, LA?
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Old 12-05-2013, 02:52 PM   #2
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In doing some testing and goofing around (historical) in order to familiarize myself with OOTP 14 (before converting from v12), I came across a couple of strange things:

FIRST ISSUE
In the last week of the 1966 season the NL race is tight, so I check to see what pitching matchups are coming up. When looking at the Dodgers rotation I see that they only have 8 pitchers on the active roster. Perranoski and Singer are on the DL, so that explains part of it. But I’m wondering where the reserve-roster types are. I check the free agents list and find that guys like John Purdin and Mike Kekich are there, and further research indicates that OOTP had the Dodgers release both of them on 1/1/1966.

In reality, Purdin and Kekich appeared for a few games on the Dodgers in 1965, then spent the 1966 season entirely in the Dodger’s minor-league organization (before reappearing on the Dodgers in later years). I’m assuming OOTP's Real Transactions module will have these two players – and others – re-sign with the Dodgers just prior to the season in which they make their major league reappearances. However, this doesn’t seem right. This sort of logic strips a team of its minor-league or reserve roster depth.

This seems to be a change from v12, where - when using real transactions - you can still end up with a well-stocked Triple-A level after a few years.

When I (hopefully) converted from v12 to v14, will it be possible to use in v14 the transactions file I am currently using in v12 in order to avoid this depletion scenario?
After doing further testing, it appears to be the historical transactions file that is the cause of this issue (and of the issue described here: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post3608570). Apparently, if a player appeared in a season then spent the following season(s) in the minors and then later re-appeared with the same team, the OOTP v14 transaction file has the game release the player on the first of the year of his missed season. The v12 transaction file, however, did not do this, so the player would remain on the team's roster (generally)... I confirmed this by doing a test, using the v12 transactions file in v14. Sure enough, Kekich, Purdin, Moeller, and others - who all missed particular season (generally due to a year or years being spent entirely in the minors) remained on the team's roster. They were not released and thus did not retire prematurely.
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