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Old 11-25-2013, 07:14 AM   #21
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I have never used the check mark before. Easier then going to play and play to next game / finish today.
Talking about checkmarks, what is the circle where you can click to checkmark on the very left of the player lines in menus?
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Old 11-25-2013, 07:39 AM   #22
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Talking about checkmarks, what is the circle where you can click to checkmark on the very left of the player lines in menus?
Used for mass select/select multiple players at one time.
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Old 11-25-2013, 08:13 AM   #23
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I imagine it would be a nice option for those that play out all their games to have a confirmation box if there are still unplayed games on the schedule.
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Old 11-25-2013, 09:13 AM   #24
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Hey Dutch,

I play out every game too. I always do a game save after every game I complete. That way if I accidentally do what you did, I can ungracefully kill OOTP so that it doesn't save that game. It's kind of dangerous because it can leave your league files in an unstable state, but if your league is going to be trashed by the mistake anyway, it's worth a gamble.

Sorry for your loss - good luck next time around!
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Old 11-25-2013, 10:14 AM   #25
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The result of the game is really irrelevant, just the fact that the game was simulated instead of played out by accident makes it impossible to continue with this league. More than 100 hours of time invested gone to waste, my entire baseball universe coming to a crashing halt with one click of the mouse.

If you try to imagine your mental state of mind if that happened to you, maybe the first 4 posts make more sense. Or maybe not.
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:27 AM   #26
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I HATE that checkmark. I asked for a warning when you do that and people complained (simmers have different needs than those who play out games - I get that).

I wish they would MOVE it somewhere that isn't right with the other important icons. I have misclicked it twice (though never in as important a place as you did... that would suck).

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Old 11-25-2013, 12:05 PM   #27
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I always minimize that sidebar, problem solved.
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Old 11-25-2013, 12:24 PM   #28
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For me that is fighting a mosquito with a sledgehammer. I use that sidebar all the time.
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Old 11-25-2013, 12:32 PM   #29
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The result of the game is really irrelevant, just the fact that the game was simulated instead of played out by accident makes it impossible to continue with this league. More than 100 hours of time invested gone to waste, my entire baseball universe coming to a crashing halt with one click of the mouse.

If you try to imagine your mental state of mind if that happened to you, maybe the first 4 posts make more sense. Or maybe not.
Why does it make it impossible to continue?

Even if losing somehow did, surely you made a backup at the end of the regular season, right?
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 11-25-2013, 01:00 PM   #30
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Hey Dutch,

I play out every game too. I always do a game save after every game I complete. That way if I accidentally do what you did, I can ungracefully kill OOTP so that it doesn't save that game. It's kind of dangerous because it can leave your league files in an unstable state, but if your league is going to be trashed by the mistake anyway, it's worth a gamble.
I have the game set to save automatically every day, so everytime you progress to the next day the game is saved. A good setting to prevent loss of data if you suffer a crash, but this time it came back to bite me.

It's best not to set the game to save automatically but instead just save it manually. I guess it's one of those things you don't think about unless something like this happens. Just very bad timing to have it happen at this particular time.

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Sorry for your loss - good luck next time around!
Thanks, I don't think there will be a next time anytime soon.
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Old 11-25-2013, 01:15 PM   #31
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Why does it make it impossible to continue?
It's impossible for me to continue because the "stain" is too big. In a game like this immersion and imagination is important. You know, a sense of realism, a feeling you're really in control of a baseball team.
Accidentally progressing to the next day during the most important game of the season can never be "explained" in any way that fits within that immersion and imagination, if you get what I mean.

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Even if losing somehow did, surely you made a backup at the end of the regular season, right?
Had my team won the game I would still feel the same way. It's just about the way that it happened. The game itself is still saved at the same point as the fatal mouse click, so I could still continue physically, but not mentally.

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Old 11-25-2013, 01:24 PM   #32
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It's impossible for me to continue because the "stain" is too big. In a game like this immersion and imagination is important. You know, a sense of realism, a feeling you're really in control of a baseball team.
Accidentally progressing to the next day during the most important game of the season can never be "explained" in any way that fits within that immersion and imagination, if you get what I mean.



Had my team won the game I would still feel the same way. It's just about the way that it happened. The game itself is still saved at the same point as the fatal mouse click, so I could still continue physically, but not mentally.
I think Markus has a name of an excellent OOTP therapist, I'm sure he would supply you with his name and address.
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Old 11-25-2013, 01:38 PM   #33
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I don't think he should be mocked. People put a lot of time and effort into these games and losing it can be quite disheartening.

I went through that when my 2012 quick start decided it wouldn't leave Spring Training in 2013. It made my dynasty (literally) unplayable.

It is one of the reasons that I always run multiple Dynasties now. If one fails, I can console myself with the others.

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Old 11-25-2013, 02:41 PM   #34
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It's impossible for me to continue because the "stain" is too big. In a game like this immersion and imagination is important. You know, a sense of realism, a feeling you're really in control of a baseball team.
Accidentally progressing to the next day during the most important game of the season can never be "explained" in any way that fits within that immersion and imagination, if you get what I mean.



Had my team won the game I would still feel the same way. It's just about the way that it happened. The game itself is still saved at the same point as the fatal mouse click, so I could still continue physically, but not mentally.
Back your league files up manually on critical days. You can just zip up the whole .lg file (use 7-zip, it's free and works great) and give the file a league and game date name.

If you do that, any losses you suffer will be minimal.
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
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Old 11-25-2013, 02:43 PM   #35
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OP. thanks for sharing. i can understand how devastating this could have been for you, and this was really instructive.

hope things work out.
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I think Markus has a name of an excellent OOTP therapist, I'm sure he would supply you with his name and address.
Over the years it has become clear to me that lots of OCD-prone people play OOTP. While I hate to ever agree with rpriske on anything, they really shouldn't be mocked.
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 11-25-2013, 03:06 PM   #37
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What you need to do is invent a scenario which rationalises what happened to you in your imaginary universe e.g you had a blistering row with your wife and she super glued you to the toilet seat.You were taken to hospital still attached to the seat and you required an emergency operation for its removal.As a result you missed the game.
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Old 11-25-2013, 08:11 PM   #38
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Back your league files up manually on critical days. You can just zip up the whole .lg file (use 7-zip, it's free and works great) and give the file a league and game date name.

If you do that, any losses you suffer will be minimal.
I highly recommend doing this. Alternatively, instead of zipping up the whole league, you could just zip up the ".dat" files. This is what I do every time I make any changes that I can't take losing or if something really interesting happens (like a no-hitter). I name the files using the game date instead of the league name so it would look like "1936-07-24.zip". This makes it really easy to find the correct backup.

Keeping backups like this is great for helping Markus fix bugs too. If you have a bug occur at some point, you can send in league files from before it occurred (plus the ones where it occurred) which can help Markus find the cause much more easily. So keeping them for one game year would be really helpful in this way.
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Over the years it has become clear to me that lots of OCD-prone people play OOTP. While I hate to ever agree with rpriske on anything, they really shouldn't be mocked.
Where did you ever get that he is OCD-prone?

My God, some people just like to make thing worse then what they are.


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I think Markus has a name of an excellent OOTP therapist, I'm sure he would supply you with his name and address.
You're right. Some people do.
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