Players retiring to play other sports

kevrock · 11-02-2013, 06:33 PM

Does anyone know the frequency of this storyline?

Our online league just at 2 major prospects quit baseball for other sports -- one for football, one for golf -- within a single season.

This storyline isn't sitting that well with some of the members, so I'm just wondering if this is a very rare storyline that we randomly caught twice or what.

RchW · 11-02-2013, 06:59 PM

It's a seriously flawed feature. More so in an online league. I'd be po'd too.

kevrock · 11-02-2013, 08:08 PM

In what way is it flawed? The frequency?

Is it an injury scenario? eg is it just an injury that is labeled switching sports or is it its own event?

RchW · 11-02-2013, 08:27 PM

Without looking it up can you mention the last two baseball players who quit outright for other sports early in their careers?

No team IRL would draft a player without knowing the possibility/chance of them not being committed to baseball. The game doesn't give this info at draft time therefore it is totally unrealistic which = flawed.

kevrock · 11-02-2013, 08:50 PM

Thanks Rch -- Yeah, that point has definitely been raised. It's dumb that it's random and there's no indication, but we're trying to work with the cards we're dealt and make sense of it.

Still wondering the frequency of this storyline. Is it somewhat often? Any way to know?

If so, we're gonna houserule it out of the league.

Ike348 · 11-02-2013, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

Without looking it up can you mention the last two baseball players who quit outright for other sports early in their careers?

Colin Kaepernick is one. I've seen enough memes of "Gets drafted by Cubs... Quits baseball for football... Leads team to Super Bowl"

Mike67 · 11-02-2013, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

Without looking it up can you mention the last two baseball players who quit outright for other sports early in their careers?

No team IRL would draft a player without knowing the possibility/chance of them not being committed to baseball. The game doesn't give this info at draft time therefore it is totally unrealistic which = flawed.

I can remember more than a few that were drafted that ended up playing a different sport.. Josh Booty was another one.

John Elway and Dan Marino were drafted and ended up playing football. Randy Poffo was a minor leaguer for the Cardinals.. You may or may not know him better as Randy Savage..

It does happen where a player will switch to another sport.. It just tends to be when they're in the minors.

RchW · 11-02-2013, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ike348

Colin Kaepernick is one. I've seen enough memes of "Gets drafted by Cubs... Quits baseball for football... Leads team to Super Bowl"

Kaepernick does not qualify. Drafted in the 43rd round he never signed and never played a minor league game.

The issue is the realism of a genuine prospect a high pick who signs to play baseball then out of the blue quits to play another sport. No baseball team would waste a high pick unless they had some assurances.

Kaepernick is an example of what actually happens IRL. That's why this storyline is flawed.

injury log · 11-02-2013, 09:54 PM

Chad Hutchinson, Drew Henson, and Brandon Weeden are three players who left baseball for football in the last decade or so.

injury log · 11-02-2013, 09:59 PM

Oh and Russell Wilson was the 19th best prospect in the Colorado Rockies' system, according to BA, just before he quit baseball to become an NFL quarterback.

Ike348 · 11-02-2013, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

The issue is the realism of a genuine prospect a high pick who signs to play baseball then out of the blue quits to play another sport. No baseball team would waste a high pick unless they had some assurances.

Kaepernick is an example of what actually happens IRL. That's why this storyline is flawed.

I agree with you on this point. Maybe it should be limited to players with very little potential to make the majors.

RchW · 11-02-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ike348

Colin Kaepernick is one. I've seen enough memes of "Gets drafted by Cubs... Quits baseball for football... Leads team to Super Bowl"

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Originally Posted by Mike67

I can remember more than a few that were drafted that ended up playing a different sport.. Josh Booty was another one.

John Elway and Dan Marino were drafted and ended up playing football. Randy Poffo was a minor leaguer for the Cardinals.. You may or may not know him better as Randy Savage..

It does happen where a player will switch to another sport.. It just tends to be when they're in the minors.

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Originally Posted by injury log

Chad Hutchinson, Drew Henson, and Brandon Weeden are three players who left baseball for football in the last decade or so.

Condrege Holloway played in the CFL and was a 1st round pick of the Expos.

I think the idea was good prospects who are actually playing baseball. Elway played 42 games in the minors. None of these guys were a surprise were they?

TGH-Adfabre · 11-02-2013, 10:07 PM

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Still wondering the frequency of this storyline. Is it somewhat often? Any way to know?

Yes but I do not know how to find the answer.

There is a thread that Andreas was admonishing someone about turning off features. I think he mentioned both frequency and time (years a storyline should kick in) in the thread. He may have mentioned where to find the info, cannot remember for sure.

For some reason I think (be skeptical) that I read either Lukasbugershmagenburgen (cannot spell his screen name, it always reminds me of the chef form the Muppets) or Bowtie mention where you can get the info. Be very skeptical of this advice. I could be totally wrong. Just trying to be helpful.

The Game · 11-02-2013, 10:54 PM

This storyline should be more common for low minor leaguers not established MLers. I had a 3 time AS quit to play football. At 5'6 165 lbs what position was he going to play? Kickers aren't even that small.

11-02-2013, 06:33 PM	#1
kevrock Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 159	Players retiring to play other sports Does anyone know the frequency of this storyline? Our online league just at 2 major prospects quit baseball for other sports -- one for football, one for golf -- within a single season. This storyline isn't sitting that well with some of the members, so I'm just wondering if this is a very rare storyline that we randomly caught twice or what.

11-02-2013, 06:59 PM	#2
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	It's a seriously flawed feature. More so in an online league. I'd be po'd too. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

11-02-2013, 08:27 PM	#4
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Without looking it up can you mention the last two baseball players who quit outright for other sports early in their careers? No team IRL would draft a player without knowing the possibility/chance of them not being committed to baseball. The game doesn't give this info at draft time therefore it is totally unrealistic which = flawed. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

11-02-2013, 10:54 PM	#14
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	This storyline should be more common for low minor leaguers not established MLers. I had a 3 time AS quit to play football. At 5'6 165 lbs what position was he going to play? Kickers aren't even that small. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

11-02-2013, 08:08 PM	#3
kevrock Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 159	In what way is it flawed? The frequency? Is it an injury scenario? eg is it just an injury that is labeled switching sports or is it its own event?

11-02-2013, 08:50 PM	#5
kevrock Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 159	Thanks Rch -- Yeah, that point has definitely been raised. It's dumb that it's random and there's no indication, but we're trying to work with the cards we're dealt and make sense of it. Still wondering the frequency of this storyline. Is it somewhat often? Any way to know? If so, we're gonna houserule it out of the league.

11-02-2013, 09:54 PM	#9
injury log Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 9,162	Chad Hutchinson, Drew Henson, and Brandon Weeden are three players who left baseball for football in the last decade or so.

11-02-2013, 09:59 PM	#10
injury log Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 9,162	Oh and Russell Wilson was the 19th best prospect in the Colorado Rockies' system, according to BA, just before he quit baseball to become an NFL quarterback.