Detroit Tigers 2013 Season - Page 54

CONN CHRIS · 10-14-2013, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyTiger

The simplest solution is to make it contingent on the team winning in order to get one, instead of being ahead at the time the guy pitched.

That would solve this situation but not the situation where a guy legitimately pitches well to hold a lead for an inning or two and the closer ends up blowing the lead.

RandyTiger · 10-14-2013, 07:32 AM

Then we might as well abolish it completely to solve the issue.

About as useful as the GWRBI.

Green & Gold Heart · 10-14-2013, 07:33 AM

Welp. I fell asleep in the 6th with Scherzer cruising.

CONN CHRIS · 10-14-2013, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

Welp. I fell asleep in the 6th with Scherzer cruising.

So did the entire Detroit bullpen!

David Watts · 10-14-2013, 08:21 AM

I know Iglesius should have held on to that ball and the throw to 1b was ill advised. But, that was a horrible effort by Fielder as well. He has to do everything in his power to knock that ball down and stop it from going out of play. If that means getting his uniform dirty so be it. Then, what's with not being able to catch a pop fly foul ball?

DamPenguin · 10-14-2013, 08:33 AM

I think Leyland "over-managed"... you're up by 4 runs in the 8th and a guy hits a double and you pull your pitcher? Veras was a pretty good closer for the Astros. Did he really think he would yield 4+ runs with already one out in the 8th? By putting in a different pitcher every other batter how could you not feel a bit nervous and especially with the crowd desperate for any reason to cheer? Leyland just finds ways to make it difficult to win, I'm pretty sick of it.

Bluenoser · 10-14-2013, 08:35 AM

I was glad to see Hunter wasn't seriously hurt, that could have been a very nasty neck/head injury the way he went over the wall.

He came awful close to catching that ball too.

David Watts · 10-14-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DamPenguin

I think Leyland "over-managed"... you're up by 4 runs in the 8th and a guy hits a double and you pull your pitcher? Veras was a pretty good closer for the Astros. Did he really think he would yield 4+ runs with already one out in the 8th? By putting in a different pitcher every other batter how could you not feel a bit nervous and especially with the crowd desperate for any reason to cheer? Leyland just finds ways to make it difficult to win, I'm pretty sick of it.

Not to mention he wasted his lefty prior to big Poppy coming to the plate. Tell me again why they gave Phil Coke a roster spot??? I didn't understand yanking Veras either.

David Watts · 10-14-2013, 08:48 AM

Ugh, up until last night, I have been watching the games while playing OOTP. Less stress. Last night I gave my full attention to the game. Buck and McCarver drove me nuts Saturday night, so l decided to mute the sound entirely and just watch the game, thus no OOTP. The Tigers have now lost both of the games on walkoffs in both of the games in which I didn't play OOTP while viewing. Guess what I will be doing Tuesday....well when I get home from work that is.

RandyTiger · 10-15-2013, 02:51 PM

ALCS Game 3 lineups:

Boston:
CF Ellsbury
RF Victorino
2B Pedroia
DH Ortiz
1B Napoli
C Saltalamacchia
LF Gomes
SS Drew
3B Middlebrooks

Detroit:
CF Jackson
RF Hunter
3B Cabrera
1B Fielder
DH Martinez
SS Peralta
C Avila
2B Infante
LF Dirks

CONN CHRIS · 10-15-2013, 05:04 PM

The City of Detroit needs to pay their light bill.

RandyTiger · 10-15-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

The City of Detroit needs to pay their light bill.

They did, but mistakenly sent the payment to an unmarked Swiss bank account held by one of the ex-mayor's cronies.

CONN CHRIS · 10-15-2013, 07:03 PM

Coke is warming up.

I'm sure that is one of the four signs of the apocalypse.

CONN CHRIS · 10-15-2013, 07:56 PM

Timely hitting. MIA

RandyTiger · 10-15-2013, 09:46 PM

Boston 1, Detroit 0. [Boxscore]

Summary: Sox chill Cats bats.

Pitching: Verlander tossed another gem, limiting the Sox to 4 hits and a walk. Along with his 10 strikeouts, he gave a solo HR that proved to be the game's only run scored, and thus took the loss.

His record is now 1-1, 0.39 ERA, 0.57 WHIP, with 31 K's in 23 innings spread over 3 games this post-season.

Veras came on in the 9th in a righty-righty match-up, and he got the job done, striking out Pedroia.

In 4 appearances this post-season, he has a record of 0-0, 1 Hold, 3.00 ERA, 1.00 WHIP, with 6 strikeouts in 3 IP.

Up came Ortiz, and to counter him, Coke was inserted into the game. Both pitches to Ortiz were strikes, and a ground-out to second ensured.

Coke's record this post-season is zeros all across the board with the exception of 0.1 innings pitched, since this was his first appearance.

Alburquerque was summoned to put away Napoli, and he got the job done, inducing a ground-ball to Peralta.

In 4 appearances, Alburquerque sports a record of 0-1, 2 Holds, 7.71 ERA, 1.71 WHIP, with 5 strikeouts in 2.1 innings.

Offense: As good as JV was, Boston was just a little bit better, keeping the erratic Tigers bats in the freezer. Collectively, the Cats garnered 6 hits and 2 walks, and of course, stranded 7 on 0-7 hitting with RISP.

The sad list:

Jackson, 0-3 (.091) with a walk (2) in the 8th inning. He also had 2 whiffs to bring his 8-game post-season total to 18.

Hunter, 2-4 (.182), two singles (1st and 8th innings).

Fielder, 1-4 (.276), a single in the 1st inning.

Martinez, 2-4 (.419), two singles (7th and 9th innings).

Peralta, 1-4 (.417) with a double (4) in the 5th inning.

Avila, 0-3 (.200) with a walk (6) in the 7th inning.

Defense: Errors, 1: Hunter (1), bobble in the 8th inning.

Next game: Wednesday, Boston @ Detroit, 8:08 Eastern.

National TV: Fox. National Radio: ESPNRadio.

Boston local radio: WEEI 93.7, WUFC 1510 (Spanish).
Detroit local radio: 97.1 The Ticket.

Probable starters: Peavy (0-0, 1.59 ERA) vs. Fister (0-0, 4.50 ERA).

Peavy is 1-0, 5.14 ERA in 1 start versus Detroit this season.
Fister is 1-1, 5.23 ERA in 2 starts versus Boston this season.

Notes: Martinez was removed from the game with what appears to be a leg cramp.

Miggy's record of reaching base safely in 31 straight post-season games came to an end.

cephasjames · 10-16-2013, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Timely hitting. MIA

Lackey was not lacking in his brilliant pitching (nor were the relievers that followed!). The best batters can figure out great pitching, for sure, but it's tough. I mean, Boston, really only succeeded on one pitch last night and that happened to be the game winner. This is play-off pitching at it's finest. Hopefully Detroit can take advantage of their familiarity with Peavy and jump all over him.

David Watts · 10-16-2013, 07:47 AM

Anyone see the article claiming several of the Boston players are whining about Peralta being able to play in the series due to his PED use? Hmmm, maybe the Tigers should suspend Peralta, but if they do, I think Boston should have to vacate all past post season victories in which Manny Ramirez(and David Ortiz) took part in. Seems like a fair trade.

cephasjames · 10-16-2013, 08:19 AM

This might be that article: Report: ?Several? Red Sox Upset Jhonny Peralta Gets to Play in ALCS After PED Suspension | Boston Red Sox | NESN.com

What's interesting is that the author gets his facts wrong in the very first sentence:

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Tigers shortstop Jhonny Peralta was suspended for the rest of the regular season...

And this is why they're complaining:

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Coincidentally, Peralta has done some damage since returning.

Because:

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“They wonder what [PEDs] remains in his body.”

David Watts · 10-16-2013, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

This might be that article: Report: ?Several? Red Sox Upset Jhonny Peralta Gets to Play in ALCS After PED Suspension | Boston Red Sox | NESN.com

What's interesting is that the author gets his facts wrong in the very first sentence: And this is why they're complaining: Because:

I just wonder if they would make the trade, 2004 and 2007 titles vacated for the Tigers not being able to play Peralta?

David Watts · 10-16-2013, 08:28 AM

I sure enjoyed seeing John Lackey show some emotion yesterday when he was yanked from the game. I have to wonder if Verlander and Scherzer put up a little fight when Leyland decides to do his end of the inning butt pat fest if maybe they would get to stay in the game.

10-15-2013, 05:04 PM	#1071
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,002	The City of Detroit needs to pay their light bill. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

10-15-2013, 07:03 PM	#1073
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,002	Coke is warming up. I'm sure that is one of the four signs of the apocalypse. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

10-15-2013, 07:56 PM	#1074
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,002	Timely hitting. MIA __________________ Check Out My Cards!

10-14-2013, 07:32 AM	#1062
RandyTiger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,510	Then we might as well abolish it completely to solve the issue. About as useful as the GWRBI.

10-14-2013, 07:33 AM	#1063
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	Welp. I fell asleep in the 6th with Scherzer cruising.

10-14-2013, 08:21 AM	#1065
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 9,823 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I know Iglesius should have held on to that ball and the throw to 1b was ill advised. But, that was a horrible effort by Fielder as well. He has to do everything in his power to knock that ball down and stop it from going out of play. If that means getting his uniform dirty so be it. Then, what's with not being able to catch a pop fly foul ball?

10-14-2013, 08:33 AM	#1066
DamPenguin All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 594	I think Leyland "over-managed"... you're up by 4 runs in the 8th and a guy hits a double and you pull your pitcher? Veras was a pretty good closer for the Astros. Did he really think he would yield 4+ runs with already one out in the 8th? By putting in a different pitcher every other batter how could you not feel a bit nervous and especially with the crowd desperate for any reason to cheer? Leyland just finds ways to make it difficult to win, I'm pretty sick of it.

10-14-2013, 08:35 AM	#1067
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,177	I was glad to see Hunter wasn't seriously hurt, that could have been a very nasty neck/head injury the way he went over the wall. He came awful close to catching that ball too.

10-14-2013, 08:48 AM	#1069
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 9,823 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Ugh, up until last night, I have been watching the games while playing OOTP. Less stress. Last night I gave my full attention to the game. Buck and McCarver drove me nuts Saturday night, so l decided to mute the sound entirely and just watch the game, thus no OOTP. The Tigers have now lost both of the games on walkoffs in both of the games in which I didn't play OOTP while viewing. Guess what I will be doing Tuesday....well when I get home from work that is.

10-15-2013, 02:51 PM	#1070
RandyTiger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,510	ALCS Game 3 lineups: Boston: CF Ellsbury RF Victorino 2B Pedroia DH Ortiz 1B Napoli C Saltalamacchia LF Gomes SS Drew 3B Middlebrooks Detroit: CF Jackson RF Hunter 3B Cabrera 1B Fielder DH Martinez SS Peralta C Avila 2B Infante LF Dirks

10-15-2013, 09:46 PM	#1075
RandyTiger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,510	Boston 1, Detroit 0. [Boxscore] Summary: Sox chill Cats bats. Pitching: Verlander tossed another gem, limiting the Sox to 4 hits and a walk. Along with his 10 strikeouts, he gave a solo HR that proved to be the game's only run scored, and thus took the loss. His record is now 1-1, 0.39 ERA, 0.57 WHIP, with 31 K's in 23 innings spread over 3 games this post-season. Veras came on in the 9th in a righty-righty match-up, and he got the job done, striking out Pedroia. In 4 appearances this post-season, he has a record of 0-0, 1 Hold, 3.00 ERA, 1.00 WHIP, with 6 strikeouts in 3 IP. Up came Ortiz, and to counter him, Coke was inserted into the game. Both pitches to Ortiz were strikes, and a ground-out to second ensured. Coke's record this post-season is zeros all across the board with the exception of 0.1 innings pitched, since this was his first appearance. Alburquerque was summoned to put away Napoli, and he got the job done, inducing a ground-ball to Peralta. In 4 appearances, Alburquerque sports a record of 0-1, 2 Holds, 7.71 ERA, 1.71 WHIP, with 5 strikeouts in 2.1 innings. Offense: As good as JV was, Boston was just a little bit better, keeping the erratic Tigers bats in the freezer. Collectively, the Cats garnered 6 hits and 2 walks, and of course, stranded 7 on 0-7 hitting with RISP. The sad list: Jackson, 0-3 (.091) with a walk (2) in the 8th inning. He also had 2 whiffs to bring his 8-game post-season total to 18. Hunter, 2-4 (.182), two singles (1st and 8th innings). Fielder, 1-4 (.276), a single in the 1st inning. Martinez, 2-4 (.419), two singles (7th and 9th innings). Peralta, 1-4 (.417) with a double (4) in the 5th inning. Avila, 0-3 (.200) with a walk (6) in the 7th inning. Defense: Errors, 1: Hunter (1), bobble in the 8th inning. Next game: Wednesday, Boston @ Detroit, 8:08 Eastern. National TV: Fox. National Radio: ESPNRadio. Boston local radio: WEEI 93.7, WUFC 1510 (Spanish). Detroit local radio: 97.1 The Ticket. Probable starters: Peavy (0-0, 1.59 ERA) vs. Fister (0-0, 4.50 ERA). Peavy is 1-0, 5.14 ERA in 1 start versus Detroit this season. Fister is 1-1, 5.23 ERA in 2 starts versus Boston this season. Notes: Martinez was removed from the game with what appears to be a leg cramp. Miggy's record of reaching base safely in 31 straight post-season games came to an end.

10-16-2013, 07:47 AM	#1077
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 9,823 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Anyone see the article claiming several of the Boston players are whining about Peralta being able to play in the series due to his PED use? Hmmm, maybe the Tigers should suspend Peralta, but if they do, I think Boston should have to vacate all past post season victories in which Manny Ramirez(and David Ortiz) took part in. Seems like a fair trade.

10-16-2013, 08:28 AM	#1080
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 9,823 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I sure enjoyed seeing John Lackey show some emotion yesterday when he was yanked from the game. I have to wonder if Verlander and Scherzer put up a little fight when Leyland decides to do his end of the inning butt pat fest if maybe they would get to stay in the game.