FHM Update Version 1.0.3 Now Available

[Zorro]

Originally Posted by gmerger

Frankly you don't really seem stable to me so that is why I didn't explain it to you.

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Sorry if I scared you my friend. It was not intended. ................................................ Z

[Ekcut]

Bottom line, every team is at the same disadvantage on the road. It's not like fixing this will allow you to have the same winning% at home and improve your road % propelling you to the top of the league.

Every team gets 41 home and 41 road. The better teams will win more, the worse teams win less. Yes, it isnt realistic, but no it isnt making it more difficult to make the playoffs.

It will be tweaked, it's already been fixed I bet. No need to bring this up in each thread.

I like the idea of modifier to select how much home advantage is.

[Irr11]

Why can I neither offer my unsigned draftees a contract nor make a transfer offer for those playing in Europe????
In the beta version it was possible, because it should be!

[Zorro]

Originally Posted by Ekcut

I like the idea of modifier to select how much home advantage is.

That would be perfect for all............................................... ....Z

[truebatman]

Exactly :-)

[Mordrehl]

To add to the "Road/Away" debate

Last years Eastern standings :

Rank Team GP W L OT ROW PTS GF GA Home Away Last 10 Streak
1 Pittsburgh 48 36 12 0 33 72 165 119 18-6-0 18-6-0 8-2-0 Won 1
2 Montreal 48 29 14 5 26 63 149 126 14-7-3 15-7-2 4-6-0 Won 2
3 Washington 48 27 18 3 24 57 149 130 15-8-1 12-10-2 8-1-1 Won 1
4 Boston 48 28 14 6 24 62 131 109 16-5-3 12-9-3 3-5-2 Lost 1
5 Toronto 48 26 17 5 26 57 145 133 13-9-2 13-8-3 5-4-1 Lost 1
6 NY Rangers 48 26 18 4 22 56 130 112 16-6-2 10-12-2 7-3-0 Won 2
7 Ottawa 48 25 17 6 21 56 116 104 15-6-3 10-11-3 6-4-0 Won 1
8 NY Islanders 48 24 17 7 20 55 139 139 10-11-3 14-6-4 6-1-3 OT 1


Note : Pittsburgh were 18-6 at home and 18-6 on the road ... something we will never currently see no matter how stacked your team is in FHM

Note : NY Isles ... with a losing home record and 14-6-4 on the road ... again, in FHM currently a team that has a losing home record is almost guarenteed to be abyssmal on the road (like 2-22)

Note: Of the 8 playoffs teams only 2 had a losing record on the road (NYRangers and the Sens). 6 out 8 teams had a winning records (west was similar) ... so 12 out 30 teams had a winning record on the road. I'm lucky if I see 2-3 teams out of 30 with one


Take the 1976/77 Canadiens

60-8-12 in 80games ... even if they'd won ALL 40 at home, their road record would have been 20-8-12 ... a feat you're likely to never see in FHM as it currently stands

TLDR : Stacked teams should dominate both at home and on the road ... we shouldn't be seeing a 1-2 goal difference in GAA between Home and Away ... (literally, go look at your goalies home and road records and they'll be 1.98 @ Home and 3.98 @ Road :P

[gmerger]

Originally Posted by Mordrehl

To add to the "Road/Away" debate

Last years Eastern standings :

Rank Team GP W L OT ROW PTS GF GA Home Away Last 10 Streak
1 Pittsburgh 48 36 12 0 33 72 165 119 18-6-0 18-6-0 8-2-0 Won 1
2 Montreal 48 29 14 5 26 63 149 126 14-7-3 15-7-2 4-6-0 Won 2
3 Washington 48 27 18 3 24 57 149 130 15-8-1 12-10-2 8-1-1 Won 1
4 Boston 48 28 14 6 24 62 131 109 16-5-3 12-9-3 3-5-2 Lost 1
5 Toronto 48 26 17 5 26 57 145 133 13-9-2 13-8-3 5-4-1 Lost 1
6 NY Rangers 48 26 18 4 22 56 130 112 16-6-2 10-12-2 7-3-0 Won 2
7 Ottawa 48 25 17 6 21 56 116 104 15-6-3 10-11-3 6-4-0 Won 1
8 NY Islanders 48 24 17 7 20 55 139 139 10-11-3 14-6-4 6-1-3 OT 1


Note : Pittsburgh were 18-6 at home and 18-6 on the road ... something we will never currently see no matter how stacked your team is in FHM

Note : NY Isles ... with a losing home record and 14-6-4 on the road ... again, in FHM currently a team that has a losing home record is almost guarenteed to be abyssmal on the road (like 2-22)

Note: Of the 8 playoffs teams only 2 had a losing record on the road (NYRangers and the Sens). 6 out 8 teams had a winning records (west was similar) ... so 12 out 30 teams had a winning record on the road. I'm lucky if I see 2-3 teams out of 30 with one


Take the 1976/77 Canadiens

60-8-12 in 80games ... even if they'd won ALL 40 at home, they're road record would have been 20-8-12 ... a feat you're likely to never see in FHM as it currently stands

TLDR : Stacked teams should dominate both at home and on the road ... we shouldn't be seeing a 1-2 goal difference in GAA between Home and Away ... (literally, go look at your goalies home and road records and they'll be 1.98 @ Home and 3.98 @ Road :P

Thank you thank you thank you sir.

This should clearly demonstrate what I am talking about. It's not just the goalies the players themselves all score more goals and assists at home than on the road. The coding for road vs away needs to be completely re hauled because I can't see how a "slight tweak" in the other direction will fix this problem.

[pjpjr6]

Originally Posted by Irr11

Why can I neither offer my unsigned draftees a contract nor make a transfer offer for those playing in Europe????
In the beta version it was possible, because it should be!

I had an issue with singing restricted free agents. I lost all mine.

[Zorro]

" Home advantage has swung too far in the direction of the home team after being too little earlier, we'll adjust that." That quote was from Jeff. I do not know how he can make this any clearer. I feel kind of sorry for the guy. Even the people he is trying to help complains. lol..................................Z

[Mordrehl]

Originally Posted by Zorro

" Home advantage has swung too far in the direction of the home team after being too little earlier, we'll adjust that." That quote was from Jeff. I do not know how he can make this any clearer. I feel kind of sorry for the guy. Even the people he is trying to help complains. lol..................................Z

It's not complaining ... its pointing out that a small tweak turning down home advantage is not enough to represent the realities of hockey.

Good teams (the top half of the league) don't just have dominate home records, they also tend to dominate on the road. Not just play 500 hockey,which given the current imbalance in Home vs Away is what a small tweak would accomplish. Also a small tweak balancing Home vs Away would also potentially mean less of a winning record at home. Home games seem to currently be on par with what one would expect in a season.

We're simply expressing our opinion that it's a bigger tweak that is needed, not just a small nudge. What needs to happen is making it easier to win on the road without effecting any advantage a dominate club currently has at home.

[Zorro]

Originally Posted by Mordrehl

It's not complaining ... its pointing out that a small tweak turning down home advantage is not enough to represent the realities of hockey.

Good teams (the top half of the league) don't just have dominate home records, they also tend to dominate on the road. Not just play 500 hockey,which given the current imbalance in Home vs Away is what a small tweak would accomplish. Also a small tweak balancing Home vs Away would also potentially mean less of a winning record at home. Home games seem to currently be on par with what one would expect in a season.

We're simply expressing our opinion that it's a bigger tweak that is needed, not just a small nudge. What needs to happen is making it easier to win on the road without effecting any advantage a dominate club currently has at home.

Ok, Then I agree with having a option on how much home ice should be tweaked so everyone who plays can enjoy the game their way. Options are always good for everyone. .......................................Z

[dave1927p]

When teams are in huge markets or in a market with high expecaitions (tor and mtl to list a couple) if the team struggles its actually a relief for many players to go on the road. Especially when you have ur own fans booing you.

[moore4807]

Ok most of you know me as someone who is staunchly defending this game... Now its Sept 19th and nearly two weeks since the last update...

Developers - it's time for another update or let us know what is in the pipeline, in order to keep up interest...

There are some legitimate beefs about things needing work and I'm not trying to take you away from improving the game. Just throw us a bone to keep the dogs happy... :-)

[silvam14]

Originally Posted by moore4807

Ok most of you know me as someone who is staunchly defending this game... Now its Sept 19th and nearly two weeks since the last update...

Developers - it's time for another update or let us know what is in the pipeline, in order to keep up interest...

There are some legitimate beefs about things needing work and I'm not trying to take you away from improving the game. Just throw us a bone to keep the dogs happy... :-)

You must have missed this update the size of a blimp on these here boards:

Patch-2-Update
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=236755

[moore4807]

Originally Posted by silvam14

You must have missed this update the size of a blimp on these here boards:

Patch-2-Update
Patch 2 Update - OOTP Developments Forums

Why, YES, I did... <hangs head in shame>

I was following pretty closely too, at least I thought I was!

[dave1927p]

Originally Posted by moore4807

Why, YES, I did... <hangs head in shame>

I was following pretty closely too, at least I thought I was!

You must of been staring at your display pic too long...I know I just was

[Mordrehl]

17 days since 1.0.3
7 days since any update by JeffR on the state of the game

To me, seems now that the game has been released we're suddenly being left very much in the dark as to the direction, plans and state of the game.

[YZG]

Originally Posted by Mordrehl

17 days since 1.0.3
7 days since any update by JeffR on the state of the game

To me, seems now that the game has been released we're suddenly being left very much in the dark as to the direction, plans and state of the game.

A bit impatient, are we? That's not really a long time...

Gotta leave people the time to fix, implement, and then test to ensure that the changes work as they should, that what does not gets corrected and that nothing introduces new bugs.

[archibalduk]

The silence is because 1) Jeff has been ill and has been catching up with his workload and, more importantly, 2) they're busy working on the next patch. Rest assured the work on Patch #2 has been progressing on a daily basis. There have been a couple of internal beta builds with various fixes and improvements and there are some more things that are still being worked on.

I appreciate many of us (myself included) check the forums daily to see if there's any news. However we just have to accept that we have to wait until the devs are ready to release more news. If they posted updates on a daily basis, they'd have less time to work on the game - and it'd be really hard to keep up with the millions of posts!

[Mordrehl]

Maybe I'm just spoiled by larger projects that tend to have constant communication with their public on a daily basis :P