How do you rate this player?

sterjs · 09-06-2013, 10:47 PM

I'm in round 12 of Inaugural Draft and this SP is available:

I don't know what to make of him. My instincts say he's too good to be true.... why is he rated 0.5/3.5 when his current ratings are almost maxed out? He has two more pitches rated 10+ fwiw.

captaincoop17 · 09-06-2013, 10:56 PM

He's a reliever. Look at the stamina. I'd take him just because there is always that chance that you could stretch him out and he could become a solid SP.

cblacker · 09-06-2013, 10:57 PM

Well, 6 stamina is kind of low for SP. Also, I noticed that you have 'OSA' scouting selected. What does your own scout think of him? His 'Stuff' rating is mediocre, meaning he won't strike out a lot of batters so you would want to back him up with a good defense, especially infield defense with that 62% GB rate.

RchW · 09-06-2013, 11:23 PM

Looks like a 20 point scale.

At 24 he has little chance of going anywhere but out of baseball. Lot's of mediocre pitches don't excite me much.

sterjs · 09-06-2013, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cblacker

Well, 6 stamina is kind of low for SP. Also, I noticed that you have 'OSA' scouting selected. What does your own scout think of him? His 'Stuff' rating is mediocre, meaning he won't strike out a lot of batters so you would want to back him up with a good defense, especially infield defense with that 62% GB rate.

My scout likes him even more.

Of course, I let AI make roster moves and it promptly placed him on irrevocable waivers, where he was lost to a team that moved him to MR. Lesson learned.

captaincoop17 · 09-06-2013, 11:53 PM

I'd watch him as he develops, he is only 24. Could you post something like 5 or 10 seasons down the road with how he is doing?

nebradska · 09-07-2013, 01:32 AM

6/20 stamina can most definitely be a starter in modern day leagues. He's not going to finish the season with a ton of complete games, but if he keeps his pitch count to a reasonable level, he'll go 6+ almost every time.

He's not outstanding, but he has good control. He looks like a solid 4/5, maybe even 3, depending on the team and league.

sterjs · 09-08-2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by captaincoop17

I'd watch him as he develops, he is only 24. Could you post something like 5 or 10 seasons down the road with how he is doing?

For whatever reason, he never lived up to his Control rating, so he probably wouldn't have been a useful SP:

I've tried turning prospects like him into SP but the AI usually changes them back into MR/CL instead of stretching them out in the minors.

Tyler87898 · 09-08-2013, 03:36 PM

I really wish there was a way to build stamina.

RchW · 09-08-2013, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sterjs

For whatever reason, he never lived up to his Control rating, so he probably wouldn't have been a useful SP:

I've tried turning prospects like him into SP but the AI usually changes them back into MR/CL instead of stretching them out in the minors.

With mid line stuff low stamina and no dominant pitch he was a tough call as a SP. Pitch ratings carry more weight than the corresponding stuff movement and control ratings. I'm impressed that he's done so well as a reliever.

What sort of offensive environment do you have? Note that his BABIP took an amazing dive in 2017. It seems likely that he would go back to 2014-15 levels unless the defense is incredible.

Pacoheadley · 09-08-2013, 08:54 PM

Hey, for a 12th round pick he has been great.
(Just realized this was inaugural, not the normal draft. Oops)

r0nster · 09-08-2013, 09:01 PM

would NOT draft this guy or waste a pick for him. Career minor leaguer at best.

09-06-2013, 10:47 PM	#1
sterjs Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 39	How do you rate this player? I'm in round 12 of Inaugural Draft and this SP is available: I don't know what to make of him. My instincts say he's too good to be true.... why is he rated 0.5/3.5 when his current ratings are almost maxed out? He has two more pitches rated 10+ fwiw.

09-06-2013, 11:23 PM	#4
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Looks like a 20 point scale. At 24 he has little chance of going anywhere but out of baseball. Lot's of mediocre pitches don't excite me much. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

09-06-2013, 10:56 PM	#2
captaincoop17 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 869	He's a reliever. Look at the stamina. I'd take him just because there is always that chance that you could stretch him out and he could become a solid SP.

09-06-2013, 10:57 PM	#3
cblacker Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 324	Well, 6 stamina is kind of low for SP. Also, I noticed that you have 'OSA' scouting selected. What does your own scout think of him? His 'Stuff' rating is mediocre, meaning he won't strike out a lot of batters so you would want to back him up with a good defense, especially infield defense with that 62% GB rate.

09-06-2013, 11:53 PM	#6
captaincoop17 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 869	I'd watch him as he develops, he is only 24. Could you post something like 5 or 10 seasons down the road with how he is doing?

09-07-2013, 01:32 AM	#7
nebradska Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Illinois Posts: 229	6/20 stamina can most definitely be a starter in modern day leagues. He's not going to finish the season with a ton of complete games, but if he keeps his pitch count to a reasonable level, he'll go 6+ almost every time. He's not outstanding, but he has good control. He looks like a solid 4/5, maybe even 3, depending on the team and league.

09-08-2013, 03:36 PM	#9
Tyler87898 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 794	I really wish there was a way to build stamina.

09-08-2013, 08:54 PM	#11
Pacoheadley All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Kincheloe, MI Posts: 521	Hey, for a 12th round pick he has been great. (Just realized this was inaugural, not the normal draft. Oops)

09-08-2013, 09:01 PM	#12
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,081	would NOT draft this guy or waste a pick for him. Career minor leaguer at best.