I do not understand stars v ratings

[clwalcott]

Sorry, I'm sure it's been covered a billion times and I'm quite happy for someone to drop a link and read that, but I don't understand why sometimes players can have good ratings and like, half a star or one star sometimes. Again, I'm not saying anything is wrong with the game, and have read the pages in the manual, but I'm not sure about the interplay between the individual ratings of various skills and then the overall stars rating.

Thanks for any help that can be provided to illuminate this topic.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by clwalcott

Sorry, I'm sure it's been covered a billion times and I'm quite happy for someone to drop a link and read that, but I don't understand why sometimes players can have good ratings and like, half a star or one star sometimes. Again, I'm not saying anything is wrong with the game, and have read the pages in the manual, but I'm not sure about the interplay between the individual ratings of various skills and then the overall stars rating.

Thanks for any help that can be provided to illuminate this topic.

Stars arent an exact science when it comes to scouting what you are looking for. Perhaps he has a high contact rating and low power, speed, defense? Or maybe that position is abnormally strong in the league you are in and this particular player is below average compared to the rest of the league.

You should feel good about how you scout players as a lot of gems can be found if you dont overuse the star ratings.

[r0nster]

Stars is more or less trade value ratings is skill level of said player

[SirMichaelJordan]

Originally Posted by r0nster

Stars is more or less trade value ratings is skill level of said player

Yes what he said. And you can change the evaluation of the star ratings to your liking.

[SteveP]

See if this helps:

Your baseball universe likely consists of several hundred (and maybe many hundred) players. The ones who make it to the major league will have very good ratings. The average player at the major league level will have a one star rating. Players who get more than one star represent a small fraction of players in your universe. They are players who have the presumed ability to make a notable impact on the success of a team.

[clwalcott]

Thank you to everyone for your replies.

SteveP, this is right - one star players are usually at least passable major leaguers (this is what surprises me when I see Tabata, for instance, rated as three stars). I also am familiar with the concept that the ratings and stars are not infallible but a guide based on how good/not good my scout is.

This also makes me wonder about OSA scouting. I used to ignore it, thinking it was less accurate, but now I tend to use it as a second opinion, but again, I am basically guessing in the dark here.

I guess what I was wondering is that sometimes a players ratings (let's take a pitcher with 65/50/50) don't seem to match his star rating (one star for instance, when another player with identical ratings has three stars). That I don't get - shouldn't the star rating be basically a summary of the individual ratings? Or am I missing something?

Thanks again.

[DCG12]

Originally Posted by clwalcott

Thank you to everyone for your replies.

SteveP, this is right - one star players are usually at least passable major leaguers (this is what surprises me when I see Tabata, for instance, rated as three stars). I also am familiar with the concept that the ratings and stars are not infallible but a guide based on how good/not good my scout is.

This also makes me wonder about OSA scouting. I used to ignore it, thinking it was less accurate, but now I tend to use it as a second opinion, but again, I am basically guessing in the dark here.

I guess what I was wondering is that sometimes a players ratings (let's take a pitcher with 65/50/50) don't seem to match his star rating (one star for instance, when another player with identical ratings has three stars). That I don't get - shouldn't the star rating be basically a summary of the individual ratings? Or am I missing something?

Thanks again.

Assuming that the 65/50/50 are stuff/movement/control then what you're missing is the individual pitch ratings as well as stamina and how hard he might throw.

Stars take in the whole package not just the three major ratings

[nyy26wc]

Originally Posted by clwalcott

I guess what I was wondering is that sometimes a players ratings (let's take a pitcher with 65/50/50) don't seem to match his star rating (one star for instance, when another player with identical ratings has three stars). That I don't get - shouldn't the star rating be basically a summary of the individual ratings? Or am I missing something?

There's also another variable. the star ratings might take into account the player's stats. If they do, they do so in accordance to the weights that you assign in "game setup" then "AI options", under the category of "AI Player Evaluation Options."

But, the stats, and the weighting of them only come into play, if in "global settings", you have "Overall rating based on AI evaluation, not pure ratings." checked.

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by DCG12

Assuming that the 65/50/50 are stuff/movement/control then what you're missing is the individual pitch ratings as well as stamina and how hard he might throw.

Stars take in the whole package not just the three major ratings

Along with ground all pct and hold rinners


EDIT: people may not realize it, but individual pitch ratings (which all quantify stuff) and ground ball pct weight very heavily into the rating.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Along with ground all pct and hold rinners


EDIT: people may not realize it, but individual pitch ratings (which all quantify stuff) and ground ball pct weight very heavily into the rating.

Not sure I understand. What happens to fly ball pitchers?

[injury log]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

EDIT: people may not realize it, but individual pitch ratings (which all quantify stuff) and ground ball pct weight very heavily into the rating.

That just isn't true.

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by injury log

That just isn't true.

maybe not all, but I really do think ground ball pct plays a serious role in pitcher evaluation. More than most realize.



Just an observation...but I don't think I'm wrong. I've noticed this trend for some time now in fact.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by nyy26wc

There's also another variable. the star ratings might take into account the player's stats. If they do, they do so in accordance to the weights that you assign in "game setup" then "AI options", under the category of "AI Player Evaluation Options."

But, the stats, and the weighting of them only come into play, if in "global settings", you have "Overall rating based on AI evaluation, not pure ratings." checked.

This is a very astute observation and is about a feature that is capable of being overlooked, forgotten, or misunderstood (by me, on occasion). He's talking about this (first screen print) which does not come into play unless the option that he mentions (second screen print) is checked.

If it is checked, then the player's current performance will have an effect on his stars, regardless of his actual ratings. It's interesting to accompany this with setting Show Potential<Actual to Yes. Then you get the situation where his Overall stars can exceed his Potential stars.