Bring back the OOTP13 schedule editor

[Orioles1966]

The new one is too slow. Takes me much longer(an hour per league) to edit schedules prior to the regular season.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by Orioles1966

The new one is too slow. Takes me much longer(an hour per league) to edit schedules prior to the regular season.

Educate me as to what you are doing. I edit schedules but obviously not in the way you do.

[Orioles1966]

Originally Posted by RchW

Educate me as to what you are doing. I edit schedules but obviously not in the way you do.

My leagues play 2 game series. Before the season starts,I postpone approx. 99 series(some just one game ,but mostly both games). I then re-schedule them as single games or double-headers. The games are played before the season starts,after the season ends and during the league scheduled off days.

Just started the 2013 Midwest League season. Regular season scheduled to start on April 11th,however I start it early(April 1st) with two double-headers. After April 1st,I continue with doubleheaders until April 11th.

[chucksabr]

Yes, I want this, for sure. I have a league starting in 1888 as a semi-pro league and I want all my games to be Friday/Saturday/Sunday only to start with.

Also, I'd like to be able to schedule doubleheaders.

One other thing: no night games before 1930 or so. 7:05pm starts in 1888? No way.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by chucksabr

One other thing: no night games before 1930 or so. 7:05pm starts in 1888? No way.

Night baseball could have been played much earlier than it was.

The first attempt to play under lights was in 1880. Over the years that followed there were more night game experiments held, with varying degrees of success.

In 1908 the first serious effort was made in bringing night games to the major leagues. This continued for the next few years. In 1910 an exhibition night game was held at the White Sox's park, and by most accounts the results were favourable. Towards the end of the 1915 season the FL Brooklyn club annouced it would be installing lights and playing a night game. But the project was delayed, and the season ended before it could happen.

While baseball dithered, football embraced night games, and by the end of the 1920s, professional, college, and even high school football games were starting to be played under lights. It took the onset of the Depression to get night baseball going in the minors, where it proved to be a huge success. The majors stubbornly refused to consider it until 1935. And even when the Reds demonstrated that night games were a boon to attendance, the majors were still slow to fully emrace night games.

[blasek0]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

And even when the Reds demonstrated that night games were a boon to attendance, the majors were still slow to fully emrace night games.

For proof of this, look at how many day games the Cubs play.

[RchW]

I'm still not sure what the difference is between the schedule editors in v13 vs v14.

[The Game]

Originally Posted by blasek0

For proof of this, look at how many day games the Cubs play.

The Cubs are only allowed a cerain # of day games. That is set by the city of Chicago. Cubs threatened to move in part due to the fact that the city did not want to approve additional night games. I am baffled why the Cubs do not play 100% of night games. Wrigleyville is #2 in the city when it comes to nightlife. Games ends at 4 pm, you have a long time til the bars really start to get going. 13 bars within 2 blocks of Wrigley 19 restaurants. 2 CTA lines.

[blasek0]

Originally Posted by The Game

The Cubs are only allowed a cerain # of day games. That is set by the city of Chicago. Cubs threatened to move in part due to the fact that the city did not want to approve additional night games. I am baffled why the Cubs do not play 100% of night games. Wrigleyville is #2 in the city when it comes to nightlife. Games ends at 4 pm, you have a long time til the bars really start to get going. 13 bars within 2 blocks of Wrigley 19 restaurants. 2 CTA lines.

I know the # is set by the city, but it's still amusing. Doesn't the data show that attendance & TV ratings are higher for night games? History and inertia are the only things keeping the Cubs playing so many day games.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by The Game

The Cubs are only allowed a cerain # of day games. That is set by the city of Chicago. Cubs threatened to move in part due to the fact that the city did not want to approve additional night games.

The Cubs were going to install lights at Wrigley for the 1942 season and start playing night games. But after Pearl Harbor and the U.S. entry into the war, the Cubs ownership donated the lights and equipment to the war effort. Lights were pretty much mandated by the NL after 1986 as the league told the Cubs if they were to make the post-season, any games at Wrigley which could not be played at night would be moved to another venue.

Originally Posted by blasek0

Doesn't the data show that attendance & TV ratings are higher for night games?

Don't know about television ratings, but in terms of attendance, there is no longer any boost for night games. In fact, day games draw better than night games on average. The per game average attendance for all regular* MLB games for the 2012 season: day games (749), 32,374; night games (1,591), 30,182.**

It was the case that in earlier years night games did provide a significant attendance benefit. In 1962, for example, the per game attendance for regular* MLB games for was as follows: day games (514), 12,404; night games (694), 15,222. That's close to 23% higher. And in earlier years the night game advantage was even greater.

*Regular games are defined as all single admission, single game events, excluding home openers and holiday games. Single admission, two-for-one doubleheaders are also excluded.

**It should be noted that this analysis includes all games from Monday through Sunday. That may not necessarily be a proper reflection of the day/night difference due to when in the week day and night games fall. In the 2012 season, for example, there were relatively few regular games during the day from Monday through Friday (just 230, compared to 1,332 night games); Saturdays saw 165 day games and 226 night games; Sundays were almost exclusively day games, with 354 compared to just 33 night games.

[The Game]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

The Cubs were going to install lights at Wrigley for the 1942 season and start playing night games. But after Pearl Harbor and the U.S. entry into the war, the Cubs ownership donated the lights and equipment to the war effort. Lights were pretty much mandated by the NL after 1986 as the league told the Cubs if they were to make the post-season, any games at Wrigley which could not be played at night would be moved to another venue.

I did not know that thanx for the history lesson. Another thing i can quiz Cubs fans on.

[Orioles1966]

Originally Posted by RchW

I'm still not sure what the difference is between the schedule editors in v13 vs v14.

The schedule editor moves much slower on v14. Takes me an extra 30 minutes to edit a schedule for one league. Took me 90 minutes to edit a schedule on v13 and is taking me 2 hrs on v14,editing the same amount of games. Another thing,when you are on one date April 14th and then move to May 17th,there is a hesitation which isn't in v13.

One advantage about it being slower is there is less chance for error's. But then again you have the schedule evaluator to double check everything.