Real-time Or Accelerated?

TRay · 07-03-2003, 10:25 AM

How many of you folks sim your seasons regular time? I do, I'll be playing the 7/3 games in a little while?

But how many of you want to hurry up and see your results? (Simming 10 or 11 seasons in a calendar year).

I' m tempted, but I gotta have patience!

tcblcommish · 07-03-2003, 10:37 AM

I usually play a season in 2 days. I would be bored stiff if I had to follow the real time.

Gastric ReFlux · 07-03-2003, 10:39 AM

It depends on what I'm doing.

Currently, when playing my fictional solo league, I will play about 100 games every week.

ctorg · 07-03-2003, 10:59 AM

I don't have the patience to play real time. There's a guy doing a thread in the dynasty forums that follows a team real-time, and it's interesting to see. I think he's actually been doing real time for like 15 years, which makes it that much more interesting.

But I have trouble even making it through a season before I come up with a "better" idea and go with that. If I tried real time, I'd make it through two or three days and then scrap it.

markprior22 · 07-03-2003, 02:19 PM

I usually take about 3 weeks to play a season. I like to play some games myself and keep an eye on how the season unfolds.

ctorg · 07-03-2003, 02:23 PM

I guess there aren't many like me who try to sim several seasons in a day.

TRay · 07-03-2003, 02:44 PM

Wow! I'm in the minority. Thanks for
the feedback.

Qrusher14242 · 07-03-2003, 02:44 PM

I've tried to play seasons game by game, but get bored and start simming. I usually sim a season at a time and then play the playoffs

ctorg · 07-03-2003, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TRay
Wow! I'm in the minority. Thanks for
the feedback.

Yeah, I'm the minority in the other extreme. I simmed 5 seasons yesterday.

I usually sim fast with the intention of building up history and then slowing down. I never seem to be able to get to the point where I slow down, though.

Gastric ReFlux · 07-03-2003, 02:55 PM

Here's what I did to slow down. I bought some crazy glue and bonded my finger to the 1 on the numeric keypad. I also used it to glue my eyelids open and thus I wasn't able to sleep for 72 hours, the whole time playing game after game in OOTP.

The hallucinations were actually kind of fun and enriched the fictional league experience. Now I can't help thinking about those times my centerfielder went back to catch a ball and got runover by an elephant stampede, resulting in a career-ending injury.

Falcon52 · 07-03-2003, 03:23 PM

When I do play, I usually finish a season in a day. If my team makes the playoffs, I'll play out their games. But if not, then I just sim the playoffs as well and do the off season stuff, then wait for the next day to start the new season.

I can't play real time because from my standpoint, I play OOTP for it's stats and stuff, not it's actual gameplay, so for me personally, I don't see the point in playing one game at a time since my fix (the stats) need more than just a game to look how i want them and to see stats develop.

HackySax · 07-03-2003, 03:53 PM

I began as one of those who tried to play real-time. I find that my players get injured seriously when I sim weeks, months or years at a time so I would play 5-10 games a day BUT have found it hard to maintain that pace and have begun simming weeks at a time...

TRay · 07-03-2003, 04:48 PM

Gastric ReFlux, I hope you don't
operate heavy machinery for a living!

bsbll_n_mn · 07-03-2003, 09:13 PM

half my leagues a sim and sim
the other half i play and play

KurtBevacqua · 07-03-2003, 09:38 PM

I have a really awesome pitcher so I always play his games. The rest I sim one game at a time, then I check my minor's progression after each game. On a workd day I can go through 5-10 games a day that way. I am off this week and did close to 30 games today.

JW · 07-03-2003, 09:46 PM

Sim roughly a season a day. Sim monthly, stopping then to check stats, progression in minors, make depth chart/pitching chart, lineup adjustments, etc. Also stop w/serious injury (more than a week) to redo depth chart and put injured on DL usually. Spend more time on free agent market, draft, spring training, setting pitching chart, depth chart, lineup before season start than I do running the season.

seth70liz76 · 07-04-2003, 12:22 AM

I don't understand how simming a whole season can be any fun. Again, maybe this is because I'm from the dice and board era, where you had no choice. But I love playing every inning of every game.

Otherwise, the players are just names and numbers, and have no personality.

HolyCow98 · 07-04-2003, 01:18 AM

For me, playing every game is the only way I stay interested. I've tried to just sim and what ends up happening is that the league feels like a Baseball Mogul league. I think it has something to do with before I know it I'm like 50-70 years in...I have no idea who 80 % of the players that has played in the league...

I really do feel that if you grew up on the old games..games that had no autoplay..where you had to play out everygame...even for the AI vs AI games...then you tend to enjoy the playing each game. I think if you started playing baseball sims on the later computers or even the Nintendo and Super Nintendo, then you probably enjoy simming as many seasons as you can.

For me, I just can't get into the league, can't know the players, I don't get a feeling that any team has any tradition. When I play out the games..as the seasons go by, you start remembering teams more for past games and past struggles and triumphs you've had against them. If I sim, all I remember is that I played this team in the playoffs, or that Rico Nunez K's 17 of my batters in the 2027 NLCS...

That just isn't enough for me...I get the immersed in the game from playing the games out....Simming the seasons just doesn't do that for me.

Eugene Church · 07-04-2003, 02:22 AM

I have 4 Leagues in an Alltime Allstar League:
Major Leagues
Class AAA
Class AA
Class A

20 teams in each league

Until OOTPB add complete minors, I will use 4 separate leagues and manually promote and demote players from one classification to another. I like to have complete stats for my minors.

To totally play out 40 games a day would take me forever. So I sim 2\3 of a game and play out about 1\3.

In order to control substitutions, I sim for 6 innings...then keep track of when the pitcher is coming to bat, so I can make the decision to leave him in or take him out...As much as possible, I don't let the AI make any choices. If I'm at the top of the order, I sim by half inning. If it looks like a pitcher might bat, I play each batter myself.

This works out very well and pretty much eliminates the double switches, which were not prevalent in 1950's baseball that I want to play.

It also allows me to get familar with the players and teams as time goes by. I hardly remembered anything when I simmed a week or month at a time.

I play about one day's schedule in each league each day.

This allows me to pick each starter, not the AI.
I can choose a reliever as a starter, so this give my pitching staffs more realistic innings pitched than the game does, if I simmed a week at a time or more.
My middle relievers get more realistic innings pitched this way.
The AI seems to ignore the #1 and #2 middle relievers.

So far, I have been patient and am willing to play out each season under my control, rather than let the AI do it.
About once a month, I revamp my rotations and depth charts.

I'm only at May 17 in my leagues, but I am really enjoying the game this way.

Previously I would sim a month at a time, but was not pleased with the way the AI handled pitchers and made substitutions.

Now I am pleased.

ctorg · 07-07-2003, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HolyCow98
I really do feel that if you grew up on the old games..games that had no autoplay..where you had to play out everygame...even for the AI vs AI games...then you tend to enjoy the playing each game. I think if you started playing baseball sims on the later computers or even the Nintendo and Super Nintendo, then you probably enjoy simming as many seasons as you can.

My first computer baseball sim was Earl Weaver, in which you had to play out all the games for all the teams. I remember thinking that it would be cool if we could just automate those games so I didn't have to play them. I like simming more than playing out the games. Much of this may have to do with the fact that I really don't like how games play out in OOTP. I can't stand the PBP and there is a lack of strategic options.

07-03-2003, 10:59 AM	#4
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	I don't have the patience to play real time. There's a guy doing a thread in the dynasty forums that follows a team real-time, and it's interesting to see. I think he's actually been doing real time for like 15 years, which makes it that much more interesting. But I have trouble even making it through a season before I come up with a "better" idea and go with that. If I tried real time, I'd make it through two or three days and then scrap it. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

07-03-2003, 02:23 PM	#6
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	I guess there aren't many like me who try to sim several seasons in a day. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

07-03-2003, 03:23 PM	#11
Falcon52 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 616	When I do play, I usually finish a season in a day. If my team makes the playoffs, I'll play out their games. But if not, then I just sim the playoffs as well and do the off season stuff, then wait for the next day to start the new season. I can't play real time because from my standpoint, I play OOTP for it's stats and stuff, not it's actual gameplay, so for me personally, I don't see the point in playing one game at a time since my fix (the stats) need more than just a game to look how i want them and to see stats develop. __________________ "D-FENCE! D-FENCE!"

07-03-2003, 03:53 PM	#12
HackySax Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 20	I began as one of those who tried to play real-time. I find that my players get injured seriously when I sim weeks, months or years at a time so I would play 5-10 games a day BUT have found it hard to maintain that pace and have begun simming weeks at a time... __________________ ~HackySax --- There is life after baseball, it just isnt as fulfilling!

07-03-2003, 09:38 PM	#15
KurtBevacqua Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,968	I have a really awesome pitcher so I always play his games. The rest I sim one game at a time, then I check my minor's progression after each game. On a workd day I can go through 5-10 games a day that way. I am off this week and did close to 30 games today. __________________ "The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man" - William Graham Sumner

07-03-2003, 10:25 AM	#1
TRay Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 46	Real-time Or Accelerated? How many of you folks sim your seasons regular time? I do, I'll be playing the 7/3 games in a little while? But how many of you want to hurry up and see your results? (Simming 10 or 11 seasons in a calendar year). I' m tempted, but I gotta have patience!

07-03-2003, 10:37 AM	#2
tcblcommish Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 3,438	I usually play a season in 2 days. I would be bored stiff if I had to follow the real time.

07-03-2003, 10:39 AM	#3
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	It depends on what I'm doing. Currently, when playing my fictional solo league, I will play about 100 games every week.

07-03-2003, 02:19 PM	#5
markprior22 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: springfield, illinois Posts: 1,234	I usually take about 3 weeks to play a season. I like to play some games myself and keep an eye on how the season unfolds.

07-03-2003, 02:44 PM	#7
TRay Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 46	Wow! I'm in the minority. Thanks for the feedback.

07-03-2003, 02:44 PM	#8
Qrusher14242 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: CA Posts: 1,253	I've tried to play seasons game by game, but get bored and start simming. I usually sim a season at a time and then play the playoffs

07-03-2003, 02:55 PM	#10
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	Here's what I did to slow down. I bought some crazy glue and bonded my finger to the 1 on the numeric keypad. I also used it to glue my eyelids open and thus I wasn't able to sleep for 72 hours, the whole time playing game after game in OOTP. The hallucinations were actually kind of fun and enriched the fictional league experience. Now I can't help thinking about those times my centerfielder went back to catch a ball and got runover by an elephant stampede, resulting in a career-ending injury.

07-03-2003, 04:48 PM	#13
TRay Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 46	Gastric ReFlux, I hope you don't operate heavy machinery for a living!

07-03-2003, 09:13 PM	#14
bsbll_n_mn Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 593	half my leagues a sim and sim the other half i play and play

07-03-2003, 09:46 PM	#16
JW Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Posts: 46	Sim roughly a season a day. Sim monthly, stopping then to check stats, progression in minors, make depth chart/pitching chart, lineup adjustments, etc. Also stop w/serious injury (more than a week) to redo depth chart and put injured on DL usually. Spend more time on free agent market, draft, spring training, setting pitching chart, depth chart, lineup before season start than I do running the season.

07-04-2003, 12:22 AM	#17
seth70liz76 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,634	I don't understand how simming a whole season can be any fun. Again, maybe this is because I'm from the dice and board era, where you had no choice. But I love playing every inning of every game. Otherwise, the players are just names and numbers, and have no personality. __________________ It was a mistake to come back.

07-04-2003, 01:18 AM	#18
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	For me, playing every game is the only way I stay interested. I've tried to just sim and what ends up happening is that the league feels like a Baseball Mogul league. I think it has something to do with before I know it I'm like 50-70 years in...I have no idea who 80 % of the players that has played in the league... I really do feel that if you grew up on the old games..games that had no autoplay..where you had to play out everygame...even for the AI vs AI games...then you tend to enjoy the playing each game. I think if you started playing baseball sims on the later computers or even the Nintendo and Super Nintendo, then you probably enjoy simming as many seasons as you can. For me, I just can't get into the league, can't know the players, I don't get a feeling that any team has any tradition. When I play out the games..as the seasons go by, you start remembering teams more for past games and past struggles and triumphs you've had against them. If I sim, all I remember is that I played this team in the playoffs, or that Rico Nunez K's 17 of my batters in the 2027 NLCS... That just isn't enough for me...I get the immersed in the game from playing the games out....Simming the seasons just doesn't do that for me. __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

07-04-2003, 02:22 AM	#19
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 35,874	I have 4 Leagues in an Alltime Allstar League: Major Leagues Class AAA Class AA Class A 20 teams in each league Until OOTPB add complete minors, I will use 4 separate leagues and manually promote and demote players from one classification to another. I like to have complete stats for my minors. To totally play out 40 games a day would take me forever. So I sim 2\3 of a game and play out about 1\3. In order to control substitutions, I sim for 6 innings...then keep track of when the pitcher is coming to bat, so I can make the decision to leave him in or take him out...As much as possible, I don't let the AI make any choices. If I'm at the top of the order, I sim by half inning. If it looks like a pitcher might bat, I play each batter myself. This works out very well and pretty much eliminates the double switches, which were not prevalent in 1950's baseball that I want to play. It also allows me to get familar with the players and teams as time goes by. I hardly remembered anything when I simmed a week or month at a time. I play about one day's schedule in each league each day. This allows me to pick each starter, not the AI. I can choose a reliever as a starter, so this give my pitching staffs more realistic innings pitched than the game does, if I simmed a week at a time or more. My middle relievers get more realistic innings pitched this way. The AI seems to ignore the #1 and #2 middle relievers. So far, I have been patient and am willing to play out each season under my control, rather than let the AI do it. About once a month, I revamp my rotations and depth charts. I'm only at May 17 in my leagues, but I am really enjoying the game this way. Previously I would sim a month at a time, but was not pleased with the way the AI handled pitchers and made substitutions. Now I am pleased. Last edited by Eugene Church; 07-04-2003 at 02:33 AM.