Need Help On a Possible Trade

The Game · 07-19-2013, 03:03 PM

My righties in my pen are bad. I have the best CL in the AL this year and both my LHP specialists are above average. I have 2 long relief guys in Gavin Floyd and a guy named Sam Harper (both who might be in my rotation in 2009) I have Jesse Crain who is struggling bad and another potential setup guy who is struggling. So I need setup guy. Nick Blackburn is another who might make my rotation next year, I will have 3 open spots. Blackburn is my best SP at AAA. I like this guy from San Fran.
Can someone explain the difference between opp avg and BABIP? I am a little mad that BABIP replaced OPP AVG on the main pitching screen, but that's only because i don't totally understand the stat. It factors in defense doesn;t it? My defense is pathetic this year. In 35 games both my 3B & SS both have 7 errors. 2B has 4 and 1B have 7 (combined between 4 players)
Would you and should I make this trade? I am slightly concerned that by losing Blackburn who would be a potential #4 in 2009 is going to make me go out and spend $$ I don't need to.
Regardless would you make teh trade for this year. I will win the AL (no playoffs) and winning vs the top NL team is a whole other story as I can't seem to hit LHP and they have 2 of the top 4 LHP SP.

goalieump413 · 07-19-2013, 03:12 PM

BABIP means the percentage of balls a batter puts in play that go for hits. It's a stat that takes out strikeouts. OPP average takes K's into account.

Cinnamon J. Scudworth · 07-19-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by goalieump413

BABIP means the percentage of balls a batter puts in play that go for hits. It's a stat that takes out strikeouts. OPP average takes K's into account.

BABIP also excludes home runs.

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Originally Posted by The Game

Can someone explain the difference between opp avg and BABIP? I am a little mad that BABIP replaced OPP AVG on the main pitching screen, but that's only because i don't totally understand the stat. It factors in defense doesn;t it?

The most typical use of BABIP is to gauge how much of a pitchers' success or lack thereof was because of luck, on the theory that a pitcher has little influence over what happens once the ball is put in play. A "normal" BABIP is .300, meaning that a ball put in play is turned into an out 70% of the time. A high BABIP can mean that a pitcher was unlucky or victim of bad defense, and might be expected to show better numbers next year. A low BABIP can mean the opposite.

The Game · 07-19-2013, 03:23 PM

Based on what Wikipedia says Hernandez should be a no-brainer then, right?
In baseball statistics, Batting average on balls in play (abbreviated BABIP) measures how many of a batter’s balls in play go for hits, or how many balls in play against a pitcher go for hits, excluding homeruns.[1] BABIP is commonly used as a red flag in sabermetric analysis, as a consistently high or low BABIP is hard to maintain - much more so for pitchers than hitters. Therefore, BABIP can be used to spot fluky seasons by pitchers, as with other statistical measures; those pitchers whose BABIPs are extremely high can often be expected to improve in the following season, and those pitchers whose BABIPs are extremely low can often be expected to regress in the following season.
A normal BABIP is around .300, though the baseline regression varies depending on number of factors including the quality of the team's defense (e.g. a team with an exceptionally bad defense might yield a BABIP as high as .315) and the pitching tendencies of the pitcher (for instance, whether he is a groundball or flyball pitcher).[2][3] While a pitcher's BABIP may go up and down in an individual season, there are distinct differences between pitchers' career averages.

The Game · 07-19-2013, 03:33 PM

Typically when I trade for a pitcher I look at opp avg K HR. Hernandez ranks 3rd in MLB in Opp Avg for MR. I have a team defense of .653 which is the only time it has been under .675 in 6 seasons. I am still very early in the year but I know my defense is bad but those bad players destroy the ball. My 3B is a career .311 hitter SS .379 and has over 500 SB in 6 seasons. my 2B avg in 6 seasons .294 27 HR 119 RBI. My main 1B is having an off season (his 2nd in a row) and I might trade him in July. I have a .296 team average.

The Game · 07-19-2013, 03:57 PM

I decided to do the trade.

07-19-2013, 03:03 PM	#1
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	Need Help On a Possible Trade My righties in my pen are bad. I have the best CL in the AL this year and both my LHP specialists are above average. I have 2 long relief guys in Gavin Floyd and a guy named Sam Harper (both who might be in my rotation in 2009) I have Jesse Crain who is struggling bad and another potential setup guy who is struggling. So I need setup guy. Nick Blackburn is another who might make my rotation next year, I will have 3 open spots. Blackburn is my best SP at AAA. I like this guy from San Fran. Can someone explain the difference between opp avg and BABIP? I am a little mad that BABIP replaced OPP AVG on the main pitching screen, but that's only because i don't totally understand the stat. It factors in defense doesn;t it? My defense is pathetic this year. In 35 games both my 3B & SS both have 7 errors. 2B has 4 and 1B have 7 (combined between 4 players) Would you and should I make this trade? I am slightly concerned that by losing Blackburn who would be a potential #4 in 2009 is going to make me go out and spend $$ I don't need to. Regardless would you make teh trade for this year. I will win the AL (no playoffs) and winning vs the top NL team is a whole other story as I can't seem to hit LHP and they have 2 of the top 4 LHP SP. Attached Images __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

07-19-2013, 03:33 PM	#5
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	Typically when I trade for a pitcher I look at opp avg K HR. Hernandez ranks 3rd in MLB in Opp Avg for MR. I have a team defense of .653 which is the only time it has been under .675 in 6 seasons. I am still very early in the year but I know my defense is bad but those bad players destroy the ball. My 3B is a career .311 hitter SS .379 and has over 500 SB in 6 seasons. my 2B avg in 6 seasons .294 27 HR 119 RBI. My main 1B is having an off season (his 2nd in a row) and I might trade him in July. I have a .296 team average. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

07-19-2013, 03:57 PM	#6
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	I decided to do the trade. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

07-19-2013, 03:12 PM	#2
goalieump413 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 765	BABIP means the percentage of balls a batter puts in play that go for hits. It's a stat that takes out strikeouts. OPP average takes K's into account.

07-19-2013, 03:23 PM	#4
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	Based on what Wikipedia says Hernandez should be a no-brainer then, right? In baseball statistics, Batting average on balls in play (abbreviated BABIP) measures how many of a batter’s balls in play go for hits, or how many balls in play against a pitcher go for hits, excluding homeruns.[1] BABIP is commonly used as a red flag in sabermetric analysis, as a consistently high or low BABIP is hard to maintain - much more so for pitchers than hitters. Therefore, BABIP can be used to spot fluky seasons by pitchers, as with other statistical measures; those pitchers whose BABIPs are extremely high can often be expected to improve in the following season, and those pitchers whose BABIPs are extremely low can often be expected to regress in the following season. A normal BABIP is around .300, though the baseline regression varies depending on number of factors including the quality of the team's defense (e.g. a team with an exceptionally bad defense might yield a BABIP as high as .315) and the pitching tendencies of the pitcher (for instance, whether he is a groundball or flyball pitcher).[2][3] While a pitcher's BABIP may go up and down in an individual season, there are distinct differences between pitchers' career averages. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"