Need Help With Decision - Page 2

NateAndStuff · 07-18-2013, 01:05 PM

I don't get all the Estrada love in this thread. I mean, he looks great and I'd love to have him on my team but Kienholz seems to be just as good or better than him in every way except stamina. Is a few stamina points really the deal-breaker here?

Cinnamon J. Scudworth · 07-18-2013, 01:19 PM

I vote Burns. His 3 main pitches have a better chance to reach their potentials. With the high school pitchers shown here you're mostly talking about guys that have 2 currently 'okay'-ish pitches and some other ones that project highly but are starting from near zero, so you may end up with a reliever. Estrada's wicked change-up is literally starting from 1! (How a scout in real life could project that is beyond me).

The concern about high school vs. college because you're an expansion team seems like overthinking it to me. A college draftee is still potentially going to be in your organization for 10-15 years if he emerges as a true frontline starter. And you need to put butts in the seats as an expansion team, too!

Mantia is intriguing too (as a pitcher or crossover player).

mpejkrm · 07-18-2013, 02:22 PM

Keinholz would be my pick. He's young, has the potential for FOUR ++ pitches, and he's got the perfect frame for an innings-eater starting pitcher. And while I realize HS stats mean nothing... I've never seen those stats from a HS pitcher in OOTP. Granted, he played at a rural Kansas high school in a town with less than 2,000 people, but those are just... wow. He's a long way but he's got tremendous upside, and the personality looks great to boot.

mpejkrm · 07-18-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas718

I'd probably go with the Rottweiler. He's the only pitcher with a fastball. I realize this is OOTP and conventional wisdom may not apply, but I couldn't put any faith in a starting pitcher that doesn't have a fastball.

By the way, they all throw fastballs. Sinkers and cutters are classified as types of fastballs.

The Game · 07-18-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NateAndStuff

I don't get all the Estrada love in this thread. I mean, he looks great and I'd love to have him on my team but Kienholz seems to be just as good or better than him in every way except stamina. Is a few stamina points really the deal-breaker here?

For me they would be I can always get some back end of the rotaton guy that is going to wear out my bullpen who probably would be better suited as a long relief or setup guy then an Ace. You don't see too many top of the rotation guy that only go 5/6 innings. Rich Harden is one guy that in an exception in his prime.

07-18-2013, 01:19 PM	#22
Cinnamon J. Scudworth All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 1,118	I vote Burns. His 3 main pitches have a better chance to reach their potentials. With the high school pitchers shown here you're mostly talking about guys that have 2 currently 'okay'-ish pitches and some other ones that project highly but are starting from near zero, so you may end up with a reliever. Estrada's wicked change-up is literally starting from 1! (How a scout in real life could project that is beyond me). The concern about high school vs. college because you're an expansion team seems like overthinking it to me. A college draftee is still potentially going to be in your organization for 10-15 years if he emerges as a true frontline starter. And you need to put butts in the seats as an expansion team, too! Mantia is intriguing too (as a pitcher or crossover player). __________________ "Sometimes, this is like going to a grocery store. You’ve got a list until you get to the check-out stand. And then you start reading People magazine, and all this other [stuff] ends up in the basket." -Sandy Alderson on the MLB offseason Last edited by Cinnamon J. Scudworth; 07-18-2013 at 01:32 PM.

07-18-2013, 02:22 PM	#23
mpejkrm All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 951	Keinholz would be my pick. He's young, has the potential for FOUR ++ pitches, and he's got the perfect frame for an innings-eater starting pitcher. And while I realize HS stats mean nothing... I've never seen those stats from a HS pitcher in OOTP. Granted, he played at a rural Kansas high school in a town with less than 2,000 people, but those are just... wow. He's a long way but he's got tremendous upside, and the personality looks great to boot. Last edited by mpejkrm; 07-18-2013 at 02:24 PM.

07-18-2013, 01:05 PM	#21
NateAndStuff Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 231	I don't get all the Estrada love in this thread. I mean, he looks great and I'd love to have him on my team but Kienholz seems to be just as good or better than him in every way except stamina. Is a few stamina points really the deal-breaker here?