Team Strategy

[RchW]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

It's actually the same issue for minor league teams. All of the strategies are defaulted in the middle (not reflecting any sort of strategy at all) and you must manually adopt the manager's strategy.

That's not accurate. A setting in the middle may in fact be the ideal setting for a particular form of strategy. For example I find it better to set stealing in the middle and adjust individual players. On the pitching side same for hook settings. Settings on the far left or right for many strategies may be extreme and unrealistic depending on the general league strategy settings and the baseball era.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Why do you have to be such a little sarcastic piece of excrement anytime somebody points out a way they think OOTP can be improved?

Dude, I was just asking an honest question. Why do you have to overreact and insult people?

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by RchW

That's not accurate. A setting in the middle may in fact be the ideal setting for a particular form of strategy. For example I find it better to set stealing in the middle and adjust individual players. On the pitching side same for hook settings. Settings on the far left or right for many strategies may be extreme and unrealistic depending on the general league strategy settings and the baseball era.

For every team? Sorry

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by RchW

That's not accurate. A setting in the middle may in fact be the ideal setting for a particular form of strategy. For example I find it better to set stealing in the middle and adjust individual players. On the pitching side same for hook settings. Settings on the far left or right for many strategies may be extreme and unrealistic depending on the general league strategy settings and the baseball era.

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Dude, I was just asking an honest question. Why do you have to overreact and insult people?

Read your post.

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by RchW

That's not accurate. A setting in the middle may in fact be the ideal setting for a particular form of strategy. For example I find it better to set stealing in the middle and adjust individual players. On the pitching side same for hook settings. Settings on the far left or right for many strategies may be extreme and unrealistic depending on the general league strategy settings and the baseball era.

Perhaps, but not when it is the same for every team.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by VanillaGorilla

I like that the strategies don't change when a new manager is hired.

I take the manager's preferences and bench coach preferences (manager's weighted more heavily) and come up with a strategy that becomes "my base" strategy. Whenever I hire a new manager or bench coach, I then redo the strategies in the same way, but now also use what I had before as a base, and this creates a new base. I end up with strategies that are dynamic, but have tempered shifts. I wouldn't want to have an organization that had spent the last ten years making transactions based on a favoring of pitching defense and vets all of a sudden be instructed to get hitting, offense and prospects. That is just me. So, that the strategies don't change to the new managers is actually how I prefer it to be.

I just checked the team I resigned from a few seasons back and those strategies are different, now, than what they were when I was setting them. When the change happened, I don't know, but they are different.

You are able to apply any staff member's preferences to the entire team with one drop down selection.

Perhaps an option to apply the mgr strategy preferences to all teams, as I think the OP is wanting, would be a cool option and would serve his purposes.

I, for one, would not want my hiring a new manager to automatically change any strategy settings. Let me do this, please.

I vote with Vanilla Gorilla, especially considering the sentence that I bolded. I agree with his reasoning.

EDIT: Below is evidence that this is NOT a bug but designed this way; else, why would there be an option to apply manager strategies to team strategies?

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Read your post.

I did. It was an honest question, and you responded with uncalled-for personal insults. You need to stop doing this.

[SirMichaelJordan]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

I vote with Vanilla Gorilla, especially considering the sentence that I bolded. I agree with his reasoning.

EDIT: Below is evidence that this is NOT a bug but designed this way; else, why would there be an option to apply manager strategies to team strategies?

I think he's talking about the AI though. I for one don't want to go in and micro manage every AI team in my game so they all wont have the same strategies..

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan

I think he's talking about the AI though. I for one don't want to go in and micro manage every AI team in my game so they all wont have the same strategies..

Ah, I thought there was something that I might be missing. So, I ran a quick test using the MLB Quickstart. As commissioner acting for Baltimore, I fired Dan Duquette and Buck Showalter and hired Steve Phillips and Hal McRae.

Compare Duquette's and Showalter's strategies to the first Team Strategy screen print. You will see Duquette's strategies for Roster Strategy and Showalter's stategies for Game, Pitching & Defense, and Substitution Strategies.

After making the personnel changes, I signed off Baltimore, then ran the game ahead a few days. You see that McRae's game strategies have been adopted by the team and those are Phillips' roster strategies (I ran out of screen print attachment slots).

So my thinking is this: The game is functioning correctly but the AI has to be in control for this to happen by itself. I read someplace else recently that if a human controls all teams, things like this may not function automatically as expected. Is that the case here, perhaps?

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan

I think he's talking about the AI though. I for one don't want to go in and micro manage every AI team in my game so they all wont have the same strategies..

Exactly...I am talking about the AI

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Exactly...I am talking about the AI

Yes, but if you look at my previous post, the AI did the changes, not me. My question stands: Do you have all teams set to human control? That's the only thing that I can think of as to why you would not get the same results that I showed above.

[PSUColonel]

I see that now...thank you for your research. I do not have all of the teams set to human control. They under AI control with the exception of my team. The Phillies.

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

I did. It was an honest question, and you responded with uncalled-for personal insults. You need to stop doing this.

Sorry Wolf if I jumped the fun. I've been very stressed out lately, and I guess I somehow assumed you weren't being sincere. My apologies to you.

[The Wolf]

Thanks. I really was being sincere.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Sorry Wolf if I jumped the fun. I've been very stressed out lately, and I guess I somehow assumed you weren't being sincere. My apologies to you.

Earning you a significant jump in my respect meter, not that this should be important to you.

Regarding your issue, I have demonstrated (I think) that the game will automatically update team strategy for the game strategies of the manager and the roster strategies of the GM. However, what I did was to fire and hire personnel, acting as commissioner, then "resigning" and seeing what the AI did.

Obviously, this is not your situation, as you want the AI to do so totally on its own and I may have "contaminated" the process. I wish I had better answers for you. Maybe somebody else will.

[The Wolf]

Bru, I really think that this should be reported. I don't think it's WAD.

[RchW]

Let me go on a tangent here. Issues around game strategy, league totals, general strategic tendencies and so on would be less of a pita if Markus would allow data to be read from a text file, or Excel file. This is already done via the engine.cfg file which directly affects statistical output.

How much better would it be if we could enter alpha numeric data into a file or files and have that imported in-game. Any concerns about online leagues could be limited by making this feature password required in online mode. It already works that way for the game engine. Not sure why it can't work across the board.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Bru, I really think that this should be reported. I don't think it's WAD.

Thank goodness for Acronym Finder where I found WAD = Works As Designed or Working As Designed!

Well, the Colonel knows where to go to report it, if he has not done so already. He should be the one to do so, as he as the demonstrable problem and the files to back it up.

[Honorable_Pawn]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Sorry Wolf if I jumped the fun. I've been very stressed out lately, and I guess I somehow assumed you weren't being sincere. My apologies to you.

Dang....


I was hoping for another LWC.

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by Honorable_Pawn

Dang....


I was hoping for another LWC.

Lol..now I need an acronym finder!