Team Strategy

PSUColonel · 06-26-2013, 12:45 PM

Why is a manager's strategy not automatically adopted by a team when he is hired? For some reason I have to go in and do it manually. Is this by design?, or is it and oversight?

Padreman · 06-26-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Why is a manager's strategy not automatically adopted by a team when he is hired? For some reason I have to go in and do it manually. Is this by design?, or is it and oversight?

Good question that kinda of annoys me too

sprague · 06-26-2013, 02:54 PM

Even more odd, is that sometimes on a manager change I did see the team strategy change to match the manager, and other times not, so it was hard to figure out what was the deciding factor in it

Charlie Hough · 06-26-2013, 02:59 PM

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Even more odd, is that sometimes on a manager change I did see the team strategy change to match the manager, and other times not, so it was hard to figure out what was the deciding factor in it

Maybe the AI GM can override this? In theory, a GM who hires a manager doesn't necessarily have to accept his strategic philosophy as is. A GM can exert influence or even ask for players or the team to be handled in certain ways. I think this is sometimes why you see disagreements between GMs and managers that lead to firings.

PSUColonel · 06-26-2013, 03:26 PM

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Maybe the AI GM can override this? In theory, a GM who hires a manager doesn't necessarily have to accept his strategic philosophy as is. A GM can exert influence or even ask for players or the team to be handled in certain ways. I think this is sometimes why you see disagreements between GMs and managers that lead to firings.

This is why I have always thought "philosophies" should be a part of OOTP. As it stands now, I could have a totally different philosophy compared to my field manager, and there would never be any fallout from it. I don't feel tis reflects reality, and I just think a more robust system should go into place regarding staff, GM's and maybe to even a lesser degree, players.

The Wolf · 06-26-2013, 03:34 PM

Have you reported this yet? I think it is a bug.

wiggins · 06-27-2013, 11:35 AM

This may not help, but I copy and save my managers strategy and then import it to whatever team I move to. At least you don't have to manually do it all over again.

PSUColonel · 06-27-2013, 02:20 PM

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Have you reported this yet? I think it is a bug.

Why do you have to be such a little sarcastic piece of excrement anytime somebody points out a way they think OOTP can be improved?

SandMan · 06-27-2013, 02:26 PM

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Why is a manager's strategy not automatically adopted by a team when he is hired? For some reason I have to go in and do it manually. Is this by design?, or is it and oversight?

This is working as designed by the developer....going to another team the team strategy will be different than the last team he managed. So you will need to reenter any changes to your strategy screen. What is so difficult doing this? You would probably need to change your strategy anyway. You will need it to change based on your player strength and weakness.

SunDevil · 06-27-2013, 03:24 PM

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Why do you have to be such a little sarcastic piece of excrement anytime somebody points out a way they think OOTP can be improved?

I did not read this as being sarcastic at all. I took it as he was asking a question.

SunDevil · 06-27-2013, 03:27 PM

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This is working as designed by the developer....going to another team the team strategy will be different than the last team he managed. So you will need to reenter any changes to your strategy screen. What is so difficult doing this? You would probably need to change your strategy anyway. You will need it to change based on your player strength and weakness.

It would be a nice feature to save these strategies as templates and then you could load them up instead of having to reenter them. Just another example of making things easier by saving your work off instead.

SirMichaelJordan · 06-27-2013, 04:16 PM

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Why is a manager's strategy not automatically adopted by a team when he is hired? For some reason I have to go in and do it manually. Is this by design?, or is it and oversight?

For the AI team or human controlled teams?

PSUColonel · 06-27-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SandMan

This is working as designed by the developer....going to another team the team strategy will be different than the last team he managed. So you will need to reenter any changes to your strategy screen. What is so difficult doing this? You would probably need to change your strategy anyway. You will need it to change based on your player strength and weakness.

Nothing is really wrong with it, I was just wondering if it was working as designed really.

PSUColonel · 06-27-2013, 05:23 PM

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For the AI team or human controlled teams?

Well, I went into commish mode, and yes, you need to do this manually for the AI controlled teams also....so it just feels as though something isn't quite right to me.

PSUColonel · 06-27-2013, 05:25 PM

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Well, I went into commish mode, and yes, you need to do this manually for the AI controlled teams also....so it just feels as though something isn't quite right to me.

Although I haven't yet checked in the strategies revert to the default if you sim a day forward.

PSUColonel · 06-27-2013, 05:26 PM

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Although I haven't yet checked in the strategies revert to the default if you sim a day forward.

They do not

PSUColonel · 06-27-2013, 05:47 PM

It's actually the same issue for minor league teams. All of the strategies are defaulted in the middle (not reflecting any sort of strategy at all) and you must manually adopt the manager's strategy.

PSUColonel · 06-27-2013, 05:58 PM

I guess this discussion has be thinking. Does the AI ever change it's strategy settings, or are they always constant? Is it dynamic, based on who the general manager, and/or field manager is?

SirMichaelJordan · 06-27-2013, 06:16 PM

this sound like a bug or something that needs to be changed.

VanillaGorilla · 06-27-2013, 06:35 PM

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I guess this discussion has be thinking. Does the AI ever change it's strategy settings, or are they always constant? Is it dynamic, based on who the general manager, and/or field manager is?

I like that the strategies don't change when a new manager is hired.

I take the manager's preferences and bench coach preferences (manager's weighted more heavily) and come up with a strategy that becomes "my base" strategy. Whenever I hire a new manager or bench coach, I then redo the strategies in the same way, but now also use what I had before as a base, and this creates a new base. I end up with strategies that are dynamic, but have tempered shifts. I wouldn't want to have an organization that had spent the last ten years making transactions based on a favoring of pitching defense and vets all of a sudden be instructed to get hitting, offense and prospects. That is just me. So, that the strategies don't change to the new managers is actually how I prefer it to be.

I just checked the team I resigned from a few seasons back and those strategies are different, now, than what they were when I was setting them. When the change happened, I don't know, but they are different.

You are able to apply any staff member's preferences to the entire team with one drop down selection.

Perhaps an option to apply the mgr strategy preferences to all teams, as I think the OP is wanting, would be a cool option and would serve his purposes.

I, for one, would not want my hiring a new manager to automatically change any strategy settings. Let me do this, please.

06-26-2013, 12:45 PM	#1
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,094	Team Strategy Why is a manager's strategy not automatically adopted by a team when he is hired? For some reason I have to go in and do it manually. Is this by design?, or is it and oversight?

06-26-2013, 02:54 PM	#3
sprague All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,947	Even more odd, is that sometimes on a manager change I did see the team strategy change to match the manager, and other times not, so it was hard to figure out what was the deciding factor in it

06-27-2013, 11:35 AM	#7
wiggins All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 892	This may not help, but I copy and save my managers strategy and then import it to whatever team I move to. At least you don't have to manually do it all over again.

06-27-2013, 05:47 PM	#17
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,094	It's actually the same issue for minor league teams. All of the strategies are defaulted in the middle (not reflecting any sort of strategy at all) and you must manually adopt the manager's strategy.

06-27-2013, 05:58 PM	#18
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,094	I guess this discussion has be thinking. Does the AI ever change it's strategy settings, or are they always constant? Is it dynamic, based on who the general manager, and/or field manager is?

06-27-2013, 06:16 PM	#19
SirMichaelJordan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,718	this sound like a bug or something that needs to be changed.