Beanbrawl coding???

[VanillaGorilla]

Oddly, I had just looked up Billy Pierce on Wiki last night to see what interesting tidbits might be there. Much of what is there is an advocacy piece for his HOF induction citing how he pitched so much against the powerhouse Yankees and White Ford, in particular, as a White Sox.

I did this because Pierce is my number 1 starter and I just got a flash of curiosity because of that (ironically, I acquired Pierce by trading a disgruntled Harold Baines...the best White Sox pitcher since 1919 for the best White Sox hitter since 1919).

This morning I fire up my league to play some games, and I get a Pierce Ford match-up! How freaking cool! I didn't slot Pierce to pitch against Ford, it was just his turn to go.

Pierce gives up a pair in the first, and Ford is mowing down my LHB heavy line-up as if it was child's play.

With 2 out in the fourth, and Ford having struck out 8, my favorite C/QB Joe Ferguson hits a two-run homer to tie the game.

Ford drills the next batter, John Valentin, who charges the mound to begin a bench clearing brawl. Valentin and Ford are ejected (good swap for me!).

My question is this: Is there coding that prompts an increased likelihood of a batter charging the mound when he his hit following a HR, or was this simply standard OOTP charging probability that resulted in this very authentic feeling fracus?

[VanillaGorilla]

11 games for my underperforming middle infielder and 11 games for my division rival's ace....REAL good trade for me.

[JMDurron]

Originally Posted by VanillaGorilla

I did this because Pierce is my number 1 starter and I just got a flash of curiosity because of that (ironically, I acquired Pierce by trading a disgruntled Harold Baines...the best White Sox pitcher since 1919 for the best White Sox hitter since 1919).

I was not aware that you traveled to be with us from the alternate reality where Frank Thomas never spent the vast majority his entire career with the White Sox.

[VanillaGorilla]

Originally Posted by JMDurron

I was not aware that you traveled to be with us from the alternate reality where Frank Thomas never spent the vast majority his entire career with the White Sox.

LOL.....ok...I completely spaced on The Big Hurt!

Allow me to rephrase:

(ironically, I acquired Pierce by trading a disgruntled Harold Baines...the best White Sox pitcher since 1919 for arguably the best White Sox position player since 1919).

[Gil Thorp]

Originally Posted by VanillaGorilla

Is there coding that prompts an increased likelihood of a batter charging the mound when he his hit following a HR, or was this simply standard OOTP charging probability that resulted in this very authentic feeling fracus?

Your guess is as good as mine. My current league is in the dead ball era so naturally there are a lot of steals. Whenever my opponent steals a base in the 8th or 9th inning with a huge lead I'll always retaliate with a hit batter or two but have not yet started any brawls this way.

[Fyrestorm3]

Originally Posted by VanillaGorilla

My question is this: Is there coding that prompts an increased likelihood of a batter charging the mound when he his hit following a HR, or was this simply standard OOTP charging probability that resulted in this very authentic feeling fracus?

I think there might be. I can distinctly remember two major fights in my most recent fictional league that were both started after my pitcher (same guy both times) hit a batter immediately following a home run.

My guess is that both the situation (following a home run) and the disposition of the two players involved (my pitcher wasn't the most well-liked guy) are factors. But all I have is anecdotal evidence, no actual insight.

[JMDurron]

Originally Posted by VanillaGorilla

LOL.....ok...I completely spaced on The Big Hurt!

Allow me to rephrase:

(ironically, I acquired Pierce by trading a disgruntled Harold Baines...the best White Sox pitcher since 1919 for arguably the best White Sox position player since 1919).

Out of 2830 career games, Harold Baines' b-ref page shows 1061 games played at a defensive position, leaving 1769 DH-only games (or PR/PH only appearances). So, approximately 62.5% of Baines' MLB time was as a DH.

Out of 2322 career games, Frank Thomas has 971 games played at a defensive position, leaving 1351 DH-only games. That makes for 58.1% of his time spent as a DH.

Your second bolded caveat appears to be problematic. I would suspect that anyone making the case for Baines as being the best White Sox hitter (more of a fielder argument can be made due to OF vs 1B) when compared to Frank Thomas is falling prey to the "Baines was the man when I was growing up, Frank Thomas looked bigger and played in an era that I have an issue with so I like him less, therefore he was less awesome" phenomenon.

[VanillaGorilla]

Originally Posted by JMDurron

Out of 2830 career games, Harold Baines' b-ref page shows 1061 games played at a defensive position, leaving 1769 DH-only games (or PR/PH only appearances). So, approximately 62.5% of Baines' MLB time was as a DH.

Out of 2322 career games, Frank Thomas has 971 games played at a defensive position, leaving 1351 DH-only games. That makes for 58.1% of his time spent as a DH.

Your second bolded caveat appears to be problematic. I would suspect that anyone making the case for Baines as being the best White Sox hitter (more of a fielder argument can be made due to OF vs 1B) when compared to Frank Thomas is falling prey to the "Baines was the man when I was growing up, Frank Thomas looked bigger and played in an era that I have an issue with so I like him less, therefore he was less awesome" phenomenon.

My phrasing was thoughtfully chosen....it allows me to fall back to "best White Sox OFer since 1919".....

The Baines connection at the time of the trade didn't register with me, that was something that had light bulbed a couple days ago, even though it has been a couple weeks since the trade took place.

When I typed the initial post, I honestly completely spaced on Thomas, and that is why I indeed got a great laugh from your reply, at my own expense.

Thomas is the better hitter.

I think Frank Thomas is terribly underrated.

That said, I think Harold Baines is even more terribly underrated.

Both are great players and good guys, imo.

And while we are on the subject of underrated players....there is Billy Pierce....

BTW...I am NOT a CWS fan.