Playing with Historical Transactions – Interesting Situation, possible bug

thehef · 05-15-2013, 04:36 PM

In scanning the imported Historical Transactions list for the 1970 season, I noticed that Dick Allen was traded from the Cardinals to the Dodgers on October 5th of that year - In other words, during the playoffs. Neither the Cards or Dodgers appeared in the playoffs IRL that year, but it got me wondering: Would OOTP move a player from one playoff team to another playoff team in the middle of the playoffs?

So I setup a test. In an effort to make sure both LA and STL won their respective division, I bumped up the ratings on the Dodgers’ players and I stacked STL with several stars from other teams… I then verified that Allen was on STL’s playoff roster (he was), etc., as of the beginning of the playoffs, and then auto-simmed the first few days of the playoffs, to October 6th, and then to the end of the playoffs. Long story short…

On the day after the trade…

the Allen transaction was listed as ‘executed successfully’
via player search, Allen listed as being on the Dodgers, not the Cards
Allen is included, however, on STL’s playoff roster, and is available to put into the lineup in playoff games
Allen does not appear on any LA roster
When inserted into a playoff game, unlike his Cardinal teammates, Allen mug appears on the field wearing a Dodgers cap

Allen ended up appearing in three of the four playoff games for STL, going 0-for-5… After the conclusion of the playoffs…

In looking at Reports > Player Batting Stats, with Split = Playoffs, Allen appeared on both LA's and STL's reports, with his full playoff stats (3 games, 0-for-5, etc...)
In viewing Allen’s player record and looking at Batting Stats, with Splits = Postseason, it appears as though he played the first game – prior to the date of the trade (no at bats) - with STL, and then played two games – after the trade - with the Dodgers (going 0-for-5), when in reality all three games and all five at-bats came with the Cards.

Clearly, it’s a strange situation and one that would be difficult for the game to handle properly when using historical transactions. It looks like the game handles the roster portion correctly: It keeps the roster intact for the playoffs despite the trade. Listing Allen as being on the Dodgers immediately after the trade is technically correct, and there doesn’t seem to be a downside to that (other than the cap) given that the playoff rosters are correct. But the stats were clearly off. Is this something that should be reported as a bug?

05-15-2013, 04:36 PM	#1
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,380	Playing with Historical Transactions – Interesting Situation, possible bug In scanning the imported Historical Transactions list for the 1970 season, I noticed that Dick Allen was traded from the Cardinals to the Dodgers on October 5th of that year - In other words, during the playoffs. Neither the Cards or Dodgers appeared in the playoffs IRL that year, but it got me wondering: Would OOTP move a player from one playoff team to another playoff team in the middle of the playoffs? So I setup a test. In an effort to make sure both LA and STL won their respective division, I bumped up the ratings on the Dodgers’ players and I stacked STL with several stars from other teams… I then verified that Allen was on STL’s playoff roster (he was), etc., as of the beginning of the playoffs, and then auto-simmed the first few days of the playoffs, to October 6th, and then to the end of the playoffs. Long story short… On the day after the trade… the Allen transaction was listed as ‘executed successfully’ via player search, Allen listed as being on the Dodgers, not the Cards Allen is included, however, on STL’s playoff roster, and is available to put into the lineup in playoff games Allen does not appear on any LA roster When inserted into a playoff game, unlike his Cardinal teammates, Allen mug appears on the field wearing a Dodgers cap Allen ended up appearing in three of the four playoff games for STL, going 0-for-5… After the conclusion of the playoffs… In looking at Reports > Player Batting Stats, with Split = Playoffs, Allen appeared on both LA's and STL's reports, with his full playoff stats (3 games, 0-for-5, etc...) In viewing Allen’s player record and looking at Batting Stats, with Splits = Postseason, it appears as though he played the first game – prior to the date of the trade (no at bats) - with STL, and then played two games – after the trade - with the Dodgers (going 0-for-5), when in reality all three games and all five at-bats came with the Cards. Clearly, it’s a strange situation and one that would be difficult for the game to handle properly when using historical transactions. It looks like the game handles the roster portion correctly: It keeps the roster intact for the playoffs despite the trade. Listing Allen as being on the Dodgers immediately after the trade is technically correct, and there doesn’t seem to be a downside to that (other than the cap) given that the playoff rosters are correct. But the stats were clearly off. Is this something that should be reported as a bug?