Markus - New OOTP14 Pitch Sequence missing info

[BusterKing]

There's important info missing from the new ootp14 pitch sequence screen.

It's missing what the result of the pitch was, called strike, swinging. This is important info for the people playing one pitch mode so we can tell at a glance what happened with all the previous pitches that we don't see in the at bat.

Please fix this a.s.a.p. It really takes away from the gaming experience without it.

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[BusterKing]

And I also much prefer seeing the batter then just a vertical line.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by BusterKing

There's important info missing from the new ootp14 pitch sequence screen.

It's missing what the result of the pitch was, called strike, swinging. This is important info for the people playing one pitch mode so we can tell at a glance what happened with all the previous pitches that we don't see in the at bat.

Please fix this a.s.a.p. It really takes away from the gaming experience without it.

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Agree, would like to have this info back.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by BusterKing

And I also much prefer seeing the batter then just a vertical line.

Disagree, I really like the new view from behind the plate. Never really liked the batter graphic. Now if it was your player in team uniform that would be different. Generic player, generic uniform no. The vertical line looks better to me.

Easy for me to say as a non-programer but I can't see why in the widget screen both options can't be made available.

[Garrett67]

I'm guessing just by looking at it that the green indicates a ball (obviously), yellow called strike and red is a swinging strike.


I don't know that for sure and I never really noticed it changed until you pointed it out.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Garrett67

I'm guessing just by looking at it that the green indicates a ball (obviously), yellow called strike and red is a swinging strike.


I don't know that for sure and I never really noticed it changed until you pointed it out.

Yellow equals foul ball.

[Garrett67]

Originally Posted by Sweed

Yellow equals foul ball.

I was never a good guesser

[ProphetEyes]

Agree. I miss this data

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Originally Posted by BusterKing

And I also much prefer seeing the batter then just a vertical line.

I liked the batter too, and always thought the batter image should be modable, i.e., if a generic batter image is being used, it should be easy to replace the image with another.

On other other hand, when playing in 1920s historical league or something, it's much better to see a vertical line than the depiction 21st century college baseball player. I always hated seeing the picture of that kid when Babe Ruth was supposed to be stepping to the plate.

[hefalumps]

It seems like the only thing really missing by using the color icons instead of the text data is whether or not a strike is swinging or called. I could see wanting to be able to distinguish between the two at a glance for one-pitch players.

[BusterKing]

Originally Posted by hefalumps

It seems like the only thing really missing by using the color icons instead of the text data is whether or not a strike is swinging or called. I could see wanting to be able to distinguish between the two at a glance for one-pitch players.

Been playing one pitch mode only for years now and relying on this important data which tells me what actually happened with the previous pitches that you don't have pbp to describe them. It is vital information and sure hope that Markus fixes this in his next patch.

[sjam613]

Would be nice if the option was there for people that want the image there. For me, I love not having the image since it is one more piece of information I can cram onto my screen. Likely wouldn't fit with the batter image there.

[hefalumps]

I noticed that CBS Sports's webcast uses the same colors for balls, strikes, fouls, and in play as OOTP14. Not sure if this is "industry standard". But Markus could conceivably use a different color to differentiate between swinging and looking strikes - maybe.

[sandman2575]

I wonder if maybe called strikes could be logged in italics? Not ideal, but I'm just thinking that is (loosely!) analogous to 'the backwards K' convention for called 3rd strike -- the script is altered for the called strike.

(I was initially thinking that swinging strikes are marginally more common than called, so that the italics would indicate the slightly rarer case of called strikes. But then I thought, "I really don't know if that's true?" I know swinging strike index is a measure of how good a pitcher's stuff is, but my gut feeling is that swinging strikes are more common than called -- I'm sure the knowledgeable folks around here can set me straight!)

(BTW -- I love the new batters box graphic -- much sharper looking than the older version to my eye -- but just my $0.02)

[hefalumps]

Originally Posted by sandman2575

I wonder if maybe called strikes could be logged in italics? Not ideal, but I'm just thinking that is (loosely!) analogous to 'the backwards K' convention for called 3rd strike -- the script is altered for the called strike.

I like this idea better than mine.

[sandman2575]

Or maybe even simpler -- for strikes, list the pitch type with a little "(s)" or "(c)" to indicate swinging or called --

Knuckleball (c)

Fastball (s)

etc.

Just a thought

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by sandman2575

Just a thought

Good thought. Other than that, I like the new style. The batter image is superfluous and looked hokey in some versions, IIRC.

[BusterKing]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Good thought. Other than that, I like the new style. The batter image is superfluous and looked hokey in some versions, IIRC.

I like the batter image because it gets me in the mood like when I am watching a game on tv from the pitcher's view. You can tell better what the pitch was in relation to the batter's body compared to a boring vertical bar.

I really want this left the way it was. This is a downgrade from what we had before and I don't like it when we lose stuff in a new version, never did.

[statfreak]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Good thought. Other than that, I like the new style. The batter image is superfluous and looked hokey in some versions, IIRC.

Agree completely, enjoy the new style much more than the previous.

[Déjà Bru]

Parsing:

Originally Posted by BusterKing

I like the batter image because it gets me in the mood like when I am watching a game on tv from the pitcher's view.

No argument. As a matter of preference, I respect your opinion.

Originally Posted by BusterKing

You can tell better what the pitch was in relation to the batter's body compared to a boring vertical bar.

Argument. Definition:

The top of the strike zone is defined in the official rules as a horizontal line at the midpoint between the top of the batter's shoulders and the top of the uniform pants. The bottom of the strike zone is a line at the hollow beneath the kneecap. The right and left boundaries of the strike zone correspond to the edges of home plate.

I can pretty much visualize this without the batter image.