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[RchW]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

Have you simmed past the day Hern is scheduled to start to see if he actually plays or if the AI bumps him out?

I'm playing out the games and already confirmed that a non roster player is in the game.

I take your point re simming but I'm not going to sim a game in the WS to find out. I've never seen the AI bump a healthy player from the 7-day lineup the way I have it set. If so that would be a different bug of equal magnitude.

The ability to sub a non-roster player into the 7-day lineup is sufficient IMO to consider this a bug worth fixing.

[Carlton]

Originally Posted by OutS|der

How does it not work?
I've set my pitcher to SP when the AI would use him in the bullpen and he now is one of the starting 5 so how doesn't it work? more details would be nice.

Are you running the team? Or Commissioner mode?

I am the Commish and do not run a team...and it does not work

I've tried override strategy and then force at SP and still nada

[termcl]

Originally Posted by RchW

I'm playing out the games and already confirmed that a non roster player is in the game.

The ability to sub a non-roster player into the 7-day lineup is sufficient IMO to consider this a bug worth fixing.

I can confirm this as happening. My White Sox are in the Division Final vs. Texas and the Rangers are starting a guy who had only 4 games in September. I checked his batting log and he was in AAA until 9/5/14. How is he playoff eligible?

[hluraven]

Originally Posted by termcl

I can confirm this as happening. My White Sox are in the Division Final vs. Texas and the Rangers are starting a guy who had only 4 games in September. I checked his batting log and he was in AAA until 9/5/14. How is he playoff eligible?

I think that is different as the AI doesn't use 7-day line-ups. I would guess he was on the DL on the 1st September.

[termcl]

Originally Posted by hluraven

I think that is different as the AI doesn't use 7-day line-ups. I would guess he was on the DL on the 1st September.

Nope. I checked that too. No injuries for this guy. He was playing in AAA right up until the call up on 9/5.

This may be slightly different from the seven-day lineup issue but he's definitely not playoff eligible and yet there he is.

I'm at work right now but when I get a chance I will try to get a screen grab.

[Carlton]

Please also fix the database when not using the draft, as historical players come in a year OLDER than they should

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by termcl

I can confirm this as happening. My White Sox are in the Division Final vs. Texas and the Rangers are starting a guy who had only 4 games in September. I checked his batting log and he was in AAA until 9/5/14. How is he playoff eligible?

He can be used if he is a replacement for a player who was playoff eligible but is injured and unable to play.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

He can be used if he is a replacement for a player who was playoff eligible but is injured and unable to play.

Just to be clear my earlier post is not about injury replacements. It's about a non-25 player as in the playoff 25-man roster who can be inserted only when you are on the 7-day lineup screen. The actual bug is that the "active" roster, 25-man plus playoff eligible players is displayed on the 7-day lineup screen. If the 25-man playoff roster were displayed the problem would not exist.

If you look carefully at the screenshot in the earlier post, above the player list grayed out it says 34/40.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by termcl

Nope. I checked that too. No injuries for this guy. He was playing in AAA right up until the call up on 9/5.

This may be slightly different from the seven-day lineup issue but he's definitely not playoff eligible and yet there he is.

I'm at work right now but when I get a chance I will try to get a screen grab.

A non-eligible player from the 40-man roster can be made eligible when a player goes on the DL during the playoffs. That brings up a hint. Don't put anyone who gets an injury in Sept on the DL. Wait until the playoffs start but before the first game.

[byzeil]

Originally Posted by termcl

Nope. I checked that too. No injuries for this guy. He was playing in AAA right up until the call up on 9/5.

This may be slightly different from the seven-day lineup issue but he's definitely not playoff eligible and yet there he is.

I'm at work right now but when I get a chance I will try to get a screen grab.

Did the team have an injury to someone on the playoff roster?

I thought the rule IRL allowed a team to replace an injured player on their playoff roster with any player in their organization.

EDIT: Was posting this at the same time RchW posted his message, thanks RchW

[termcl]

According to the rules listed on the playoff roster: If a player is placed on the 60-day DL AFTER roster expansion or the 15-day DL during the playoffs, he can be replaced by any man on the active roster. In my league, league evolution changed the 15-day to a 22-day DL. On September 10th, Ian Kinsler was injured and placed on the 22-day DL. Robert Andino was called up from AAA to take his spot. Of the Rangers players on the 60-day DL, all of them were placed on the list BEFORE roster expansion. In fact Ian Kinsler is back playing after his DL stint.

So, my question is, if Robert Andino was not replacing a 60-day DL player, how is he eligible for the playoffs?

[RchW]

Originally Posted by termcl

According to the rules listed on the playoff roster: If a player is placed on the 60-day DL AFTER roster expansion or the 15-day DL during the playoffs, he can be replaced by any man on the active roster. In my league, league evolution changed the 15-day to a 22-day DL. On September 10th, Ian Kinsler was injured and placed on the 22-day DL. Robert Andino was called up from AAA to take his spot. Of the Rangers players on the 60-day DL, all of them were placed on the list BEFORE roster expansion. In fact Ian Kinsler is back playing after his DL stint.

So, my question is, if Robert Andino was not replacing a 60-day DL player, how is he eligible for the playoffs?

I think there is another bug. A player on the 60 day DL is removed from the 40-man roster. I don't OOTP accounts for this properly. It seems not to "see" that player as a virtual playoff eligible spot. If you fill that 40-man roster spot, you lose the extra eligible player. That's why I save all my DL assignments (if I can) until the playoffs start. For example if you have a player with a SEI in June put him on the 60-day DL. However in September put him back on the Roster (40-man) so that you can get the benefit of the added player.

It can be a real problem if you have 40-man roster issues and lots of injuries.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by termcl

According to the rules listed on the playoff roster: If a player is placed on the 60-day DL AFTER roster expansion or the 15-day DL during the playoffs, he can be replaced by any man on the active roster.

The real-life rules state that any player added directly to the 60-day roster after August 1st is NOT eligible to be replaced in the post-season roster. (Players transferred from the 15-day DL to the 60-day DL after August 1st can be replaced.)

There is also no 15-day DL after the end of the regular season in real life. Clubs instead certify to the commissioner that a player is injured and unable to play and then the commissioner grants the club the right to name a replacement player for use in that post-season series. If the injured player recovers in time for the start of the next series, the replacement player is removed.

All of which reminds me that OOTP ought to handle this whole matter better. (As I understand it due to technical issues within the code the real-life rules have to be modified.)

[termcl]

Just took another look at the Rangers injuries and saw Tommy Hunter placed on the 60-day DL on 9/13. That was after roster expansion and according to OOTP rules he can be replaced on the playoff roster. Aha! you say, that's how Andino qualifed! Not so. Tim Stauffer was called up from AAA to take Hunter's place on 9/13 and the AI put Stauffer on the playoff roster as well. Again, according to OOTP rules, one or the other can take Hunter's place (or any other player on the active roster for that matter) but not both.

Guess I'll put this on the bug thread.

[The Game]

Not sure if this is an easy fix, since this was changed on 13 vs 12. When replacing an injured player in the lineup it lists the new player as a PH vs PR when the batter who was injured is on base.

[SportsFan00]

I heard it was a bug.. I'm not sure if it will be able to be fixed this year or next year... BUT if possible something I would LOVE to be fixed is.. the scout discovering international free agents... I've played about 15 seasons and it's usually only 1-2 a year and both of them suck... I know last years version would find about 4-5 a year hopefully this years version can be fixed to that.. now not ALL of these prospects have to be 4/5 stars but it would be nice if at least ONE or two of them were "can't miss prospects"

I also notice that international free agents that enter MLB free agency during the offseason end up not being really good either.. Mainly 1,2,3 star players.. Now I know not ALL of them will be successful but I would hope there would be one VERY good super star international free agent..


Those are the things I would LOVE to see fixed


Things that I would like to see added(probably won't be this year, I'm guessing) is babip for hitters and also I'd love to see somewhere in the players history about how much total money they've earned... I have some more ideas but I'll save them for next year.

[Bowtie]

Originally Posted by The Game

Not sure if this is an easy fix, since this was changed on 13 vs 12. When replacing an injured player in the lineup it lists the new player as a PH vs PR when the batter who was injured is on base.

I noticed this as well. I will take a look through the bug reports and see if this has been logged and if not I'll log it.

[Bowtie]

Just a friendly reminder guys....

If you think you have found a pressing issue, as Markus said in his OP, please post them here. Otherwise, all other bugs need to be posted in the Bug Report Thread: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post3378623

Thanks!


Edit: Post corrected to include proper locations for reporting issues. Many thanks to endgame for correcting me.

[Bowtie]

Originally Posted by The Game

Not sure if this is an easy fix, since this was changed on 13 vs 12. When replacing an injured player in the lineup it lists the new player as a PH vs PR when the batter who was injured is on base.

This issue has been logged as PT-3801

[endgame]

Originally Posted by Bowtie

Just a friendly reminder guys....

If this think you have found a bug, please post it in the Bug Report Thread

Thanks!

Well, to be less than clear, Markus does say 'post here' in his original post, but technically he's soliciting pressing issues that may have not been already logged. There is no easy solution, except to post any issue that you are unsure has been reported here. The vast majority of all bugs reported in the other thread have been officially entered (thanks pstrickert) and this is a P.S. thread, for all practical purposes. Markus has both threads flagged to review, so I'd suggest post here if you have any doubts.

It's important to have a catch-all, but it needs done quickly as the fixings are underway.