Relegation?

[Lumber-n-Lightning]

Is it possible to set up a league with similar relegation/promotion rules as European football leagues use?

[The Wolf]

No. You can sort of fake it, though, and do it manually.

[Lumber-n-Lightning]

That's what I figured. Thanks.

I think doing it manually might cause too many issues.

[olivertheorem]

I think Markus was going to look into implementing this for OOTP14. As it stands, the major issue in doing it manually is that teams do not plan to avoid relegation, since they do not "know" it is a possibility.

[OutS|der]

I hope Markus will focus on real baseball features like working winter leagues or more realistic indy and international leagues before something like this is added.
Sure being able to do relegation/promotion rules as European football leagues use would be cool but this is a baseball sim after all and that should be the main focus

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by olivertheorem

I think Markus was going to look into implementing this for OOTP14.

If promotion/relegation is based on the European football model, then the finances are going to be a big issue. In real life clubs often take a big monetary hit when they are relegated out of the top level league. The player development system is different too.

[mp33]

Originally Posted by OutS|der

I hope Markus will focus on real baseball features like working winter leagues or more realistic indy and international leagues before something like this is added.
Sure being able to do relegation/promotion rules as European football leagues use would be cool but this is a baseball sim after all and that should be the main focus

What's unreal about it? Not only European football leagues use the promotion/relegation system. There are also European baseball leagues using it.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by OutS|der

I hope Markus will focus on real baseball features like working winter leagues or more realistic indy and international leagues before something like this is added.
Sure being able to do relegation/promotion rules as European football leagues use would be cool but this is a baseball sim after all and that should be the main focus

Excellent point.

[olivertheorem]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

If promotion/relegation is based on the European football model, then the finances are going to be a big issue. In real life clubs often take a big monetary hit when they are relegated out of the top level league. The player development system is different too.

Yeah, I was going from memory. I may have been misremembering. If so, I blame work.

[Lumber-n-Lightning]

Originally Posted by OutS|der

I hope Markus will focus on real baseball features like working winter leagues or more realistic indy and international leagues before something like this is added.
Sure being able to do relegation/promotion rules as European football leagues use would be cool but this is a baseball sim after all and that should be the main focus

Not trying to jump any queues or start any flame wars. With all the tweaking and outright fabrication the game allows to league structures, I just thought it'd be an interesting twist.

And not knocking those who want more depth to their realistic league setups, but as one who finds dealing with the full array of minor league minutiae distracts from the enjoyment of the game, a three- or four-tiered league where the bottom teams are still fighting tooth and nail in September certainly has its appeal.

Maybe OOTP 16 or so.

[deanemj]

I'm almost certain that the development team has stated on this forum that automatic promotion and relegation will be a new feature in OOTP 14. I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure that has been confirmed.

I, for one, am looking forward to it!

[OutS|der]

Originally Posted by mp33

Not only European football leagues use the promotion/relegation system. There are also European baseball leagues using it.

If this is the case then add in European baseball leagues to the game but otherwise this is a baseball sim after all and i'm sorry but i think it's main focus should be adding in baseball features, and since the game doesn't do a good job as it is recreating internaional leagues maybe that should be looked at before adding in a whole new way of playing.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by OutS|der

If this is the case then add in European baseball leagues to the game but otherwise this is a baseball sim after all and i'm sorry but i think it's main focus should be adding in baseball features, and since the game doesn't do a good job as it is recreating internaional leagues maybe that should be looked at before adding in a whole new way of playing.

You forgot winter leagues. They should also be added in before relegation is.

[Nugget699]

Yeah, never mind the fact that many European leagues use a Promotion/Relegation system.

The Wolf has spoken, people.

[OutS|der]

Then add in European leagues then they can look at adding in Promotion/Relegation.

There is much more that needs to be added before this

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by Nugget699

Yeah, never mind the fact that many European leagues use a Promotion/Relegation system.

The Wolf has spoken, people.

What European leagues? And just how trivial are they in the overall baseball picture? I've been a serious baseball fan and player since childhood and have never even heard of one of them.

Any baseball simulation should always have mainstream baseball as its number one priority. That's just common sense.

And just because you're attached to this particular piece of weirdness is no reason or justification for getting personal. Go read the forum rules again.

[eriqjaffe]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

What European leagues? And just how trivial are they in the overall baseball picture? I've been a serious baseball fan and player since childhood and have never even heard of one of them.

On the whole, they're pretty trivial, although the Netherlands and Italy have professional leagues that are probably on a par with low-level minors.

I made a whole slew of uniforms for various European leagues, and there are links to the leagues in the thread I started for it: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...-baseball.html

And, yes, almost all of them have some form of promotion & relegation.

[OutS|der]

If the leagues that use promotion & relegation are tivial at best then adding that feature should be at the bottom of the list of things to add.

Wolf has it right, this is a mainstream baseball sim and that should always be the priority.

If this makes it before working winter leagues i'd be really dissipointed

[eriqjaffe]

Originally Posted by OutS|der

If the leagues that use promotion & relegation are tivial at best then adding that feature should be at the bottom of the list of things to add.

Wolf has it right, this is a mainstream baseball sim and that should always be the priority.

If this makes it before working winter leagues i'd be really dissipointed

As much as I have a soft spot for oddball leagues, I agree with this.

Winter Leagues & working Independent Leagues would be fantastic.

[mankle]

I'd like to see a World Baseball Classic incorporated into the schedule too!