Question Regarding First Year Draft and Talent Distribution

PSUColonel · 07-31-2012, 12:57 PM

I know this topic has been covered before, but maybe not to this specific reason. I have 50 rounds in my draft with full minors, and real roster limits (30 players in SA, and 35 in Rookie ball) Should I reduce the talent modifiers from 1.000 down a bit so that the league is not overloaded with good talent? Will it make a difference? Any suggestions are welcome.. Thank you.

PSUColonel · 07-31-2012, 05:57 PM

any ideas?

Cinnamon J. Scudworth · 07-31-2012, 07:08 PM

Is there a particular reason you want to have 50 rounds? The simplest solution is just to tailor the number of draft rounds.

For the Glory · 07-31-2012, 07:26 PM

Because with actual minor league roster sizes, you need more players to fill those rosters. With the MLB setup I will either need more rounds, or more players generated. So what I have is 50 rounds with 50 rounds of players generated as well. That's about ten more rounds of Players needed, but it ensures there will be enough free agents. I just don't want too many quality players in the league

olivertheorem · 07-31-2012, 07:29 PM

PSUColonel, is that you?

snepp · 07-31-2012, 07:38 PM

Stick to 5x the number of minor league levels (plus a couple extra to cover the supplemental round), there's really little need to pump out so many extra rounds.

For the Glory · 07-31-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by olivertheorem

PSUColonel, is that you?

Yes, sorry..on my cell phone

For the Glory · 07-31-2012, 07:46 PM

I probably need 40 rounds, with some extra generated for free agents. That was why just went with 50 and figured I'd only generate as many and try to reduce talent. Not a good idea I guess?

snepp · 07-31-2012, 07:52 PM

If you generate that many unnecessary players your free agent pool is going to swell to a ridiculous size, 99% of which are going to be completely worthless.

RchW · 07-31-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by snepp

Stick to 5x the number of minor league levels (plus a couple extra to cover the supplemental round), there's really little need to pump out so many extra rounds.

I have an MLB type league, three levels of minors and have a 20 round draft with 25 rounds of players generated. What should I cut back?

PSUColonel · 07-31-2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by snepp

If you generate that many unnecessary players your free agent pool is going to swell to a ridiculous size, 99% of which are going to be completely worthless.

but they get deleted if they don't reach the majors don they? (if I select the option..which I do)

snepp · 07-31-2012, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

but they get deleted if they don't reach the majors don they? (if I select the option..which I do)

I'm referring to the actual size of your free agent pool, it'll end up loaded with redundant scrubs if you generate that many players. Yes, they'll get deleted from the database once they retire, but in the meantime they're going to rot in free agency for years as the size of the pool continues to grow.

Messing with the creation modifiers and generating hundreds of unneeded players just seems like creating a potential problem where one doesn't exist.

snepp · 07-31-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

I have an MLB type league, three levels of minors and have a 20 round draft with 25 rounds of players generated. What should I cut back?

Have you noticed any increase in the size of your free agent pool? I usually do 15/18 when running 3 levels, the quantity of incoming players seems to roughly match the number of outgoing.

There is a benefit to generating extra rounds, it allows you to pool up a bunch of extra free agents if you're planning on expansion. This way you don't have to rely on the "fill minors" function, which can generate top prospects you don't want.

PSUColonel · 07-31-2012, 08:31 PM

OK....only things I want to point out are:

1. A few teams have 7 minor league teams as opposed to 6

2. All AAA, AA, High A, Low A have 25 man rosters, while short season A has 30 players, and Rookie ball has 30.

I would think somewhere these factors would make a difference.

EDIT: Okay, I checked and there are 7 teams with seven levels of minors.

PSUColonel · 07-31-2012, 08:48 PM

OKay...I am thinking I will need to generate 40 rounds of players...and can have between 35 and 40 rounds. Does this sound correct (or not) to you?

snepp · 07-31-2012, 09:06 PM

I'm sure that 40 rounds generated would be more than enough. I always use higher roster limits on the lowest couple of levels as well (50 rookie, 30 A).

PSUColonel · 07-31-2012, 09:07 PM

More than enough? How many should I have without getting too much talent in the league then?

goof1016 · 07-31-2012, 09:46 PM

I play a MLB setup with full minors and I have my draft set to 35 rounds with 40 rounds generated and it is more then enough. Plus there are a few International Free Agents that show up throughout the year.

PSUColonel · 07-31-2012, 09:56 PM

right, so if I generate 40, I can still have 40 rounds and it would make no difference right? Teams will just release what they don't need/want

PSUColonel · 07-31-2012, 09:59 PM

I think I'm just going to have 30 rounds, and generate 35. This seems like the best way to control talent and still have a lot of free agents. I should have no problem with this correct?

07-31-2012, 12:57 PM	#1
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,148	Question Regarding First Year Draft and Talent Distribution I know this topic has been covered before, but maybe not to this specific reason. I have 50 rounds in my draft with full minors, and real roster limits (30 players in SA, and 35 in Rookie ball) Should I reduce the talent modifiers from 1.000 down a bit so that the league is not overloaded with good talent? Will it make a difference? Any suggestions are welcome.. Thank you.

07-31-2012, 07:08 PM	#3
Cinnamon J. Scudworth All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 1,118	Is there a particular reason you want to have 50 rounds? The simplest solution is just to tailor the number of draft rounds. __________________ "Sometimes, this is like going to a grocery store. You’ve got a list until you get to the check-out stand. And then you start reading People magazine, and all this other [stuff] ends up in the basket." -Sandy Alderson on the MLB offseason

07-31-2012, 08:31 PM	#14
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,148	OK....only things I want to point out are: 1. A few teams have 7 minor league teams as opposed to 6 2. All AAA, AA, High A, Low A have 25 man rosters, while short season A has 30 players, and Rookie ball has 30. I would think somewhere these factors would make a difference. EDIT: Okay, I checked and there are 7 teams with seven levels of minors. Last edited by PSUColonel; 07-31-2012 at 08:44 PM.

07-31-2012, 05:57 PM	#2
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,148	any ideas?

07-31-2012, 07:26 PM	#4
For the Glory Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 58	Because with actual minor league roster sizes, you need more players to fill those rosters. With the MLB setup I will either need more rounds, or more players generated. So what I have is 50 rounds with 50 rounds of players generated as well. That's about ten more rounds of Players needed, but it ensures there will be enough free agents. I just don't want too many quality players in the league

07-31-2012, 07:29 PM	#5
olivertheorem All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,919	PSUColonel, is that you?

07-31-2012, 07:38 PM	#6
snepp All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,904	Stick to 5x the number of minor league levels (plus a couple extra to cover the supplemental round), there's really little need to pump out so many extra rounds.

07-31-2012, 07:46 PM	#8
For the Glory Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 58	I probably need 40 rounds, with some extra generated for free agents. That was why just went with 50 and figured I'd only generate as many and try to reduce talent. Not a good idea I guess?

07-31-2012, 07:52 PM	#9
snepp All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,904	If you generate that many unnecessary players your free agent pool is going to swell to a ridiculous size, 99% of which are going to be completely worthless.

07-31-2012, 08:48 PM	#15
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,148	OKay...I am thinking I will need to generate 40 rounds of players...and can have between 35 and 40 rounds. Does this sound correct (or not) to you?

07-31-2012, 09:06 PM	#16
snepp All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,904	I'm sure that 40 rounds generated would be more than enough. I always use higher roster limits on the lowest couple of levels as well (50 rookie, 30 A).

07-31-2012, 09:07 PM	#17
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,148	More than enough? How many should I have without getting too much talent in the league then?

07-31-2012, 09:46 PM	#18
goof1016 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 64	I play a MLB setup with full minors and I have my draft set to 35 rounds with 40 rounds generated and it is more then enough. Plus there are a few International Free Agents that show up throughout the year.

07-31-2012, 09:56 PM	#19
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,148	right, so if I generate 40, I can still have 40 rounds and it would make no difference right? Teams will just release what they don't need/want

07-31-2012, 09:59 PM	#20
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,148	I think I'm just going to have 30 rounds, and generate 35. This seems like the best way to control talent and still have a lot of free agents. I should have no problem with this correct?