Ghost players and exhaustion

[crafty35a]

I have ghost players enabled. So why are my prospects playing every single day, even when they are at 0% - Totally Exhausted? This seems like it would be a really easy fix. Just allow ghost players to sub for tired players.

[Bluenoser]

Ghost players are there for one reason only, to complete your line-ups if you don't have enough players at a minor league level to do so.

They are not designed to give real players rest when they are tired. It is up to you as the GM/Owner to sign FA's to fill in backup roles if you want them for your minors.

[crafty35a]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

Ghost players are there for one reason only, to complete your line-ups if you don't have enough players at a minor league level to do so.

They are not designed to give real players rest when they are tired. It is up to you as the GM/Owner to sign FA's to fill in backup roles if you want them for your minors.

If I don't want to deal with having starters at every position in the minors, why would I want to deal with signing backups? I'm not arguing with your assertion, just saying that the implementation doesn't make sense to me.

[OutS|der]

Originally Posted by crafty35a

why would I want to deal with signing backups?

Because that is the job of the GM, can always let the AI do it for you but it is your job to fill out your teams

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by crafty35a

If I don't want to deal with having starters at every position in the minors, why would I want to deal with signing backups? I'm not arguing with your assertion, just saying that the implementation doesn't make sense to me.

If you don't want to deal with starters at every position and you don't want to sign backups, then you can expect the few starters you do have to be tired a lot.

The implementation makes perfect sense and it also does what it's designed to do.

You do have other options of course - you can disable fatigue or you can assign minor league duties to minor league managers.

[crafty35a]

Originally Posted by OutS|der

Because that is the job of the GM, can always let the AI do it for you but it is your job to fill out your teams

And it's not the GM's job to sign minor league starters? Ghost players takes away the need to sign starters, but not the need to sign back-ups. This doesn't make sense to me.

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

The implementation makes perfect sense and it also does what it's designed to do.

Would you agree that the underlying purpose of ghost players is to make things easier and take away some of the micro-management aspect? Because that's how I see it. You can't just say "ghost players are designed to allow you to not have a starter at every position" without saying why.

I assume that why is to make my life a little easier. But the feature currently only goes half-way to accomplishing that goal. It's great that I don't have to fill every position, but why should I have to make sure I have back-ups for every position where I do have a starter? People that like this kind of micro-management probably tend to be the kind of people that don't play with ghost players in the first place.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by crafty35a

And it's not the GM's job to sign minor league starters? Ghost players takes away the need to sign starters, but not the need to sign back-ups. This doesn't make sense to me.




Would you agree that the underlying purpose of ghost players is to make things easier and take away some of the micro-management aspect? Because that's how I see it. You can't just say "ghost players are designed to allow you to not have a starter at every position" without saying why.

I assume that why is to make my life a little easier. But the feature currently only goes half-way to accomplishing that goal. It's great that I don't have to fill every position, but why should I have to make sure I have back-ups for every position where I do have a starter? People that like this kind of micro-management probably tend to be the kind of people that don't play with ghost players in the first place.

No, I wouldn't agree. I explained in a previous reply the purpose of ghost players. Originally they were brought into the game (way back around ver 2 IIRC) for the purpose of historical leagues. The idea being that if you started an historical league, you never had enough players to fill out minor league rosters until several years into your league.

Ghost players do NOT take away the need to sign starters. Sure, you can have no starters in your minors and still sim if ghost players are enabled, but that is NOT the purpose of them. They are designed, as previously explained, to fill in blank slots in your line-up when you don't have enough players to do so. If there are plenty of starters and backups available in FA, then start GM'ing and sign some guys to minor league deals. Or assign it to your minor league managers. Or turn off fatigue. Or don't use minors, just reserve rosters.

It doesn't make sense to you because you're looking at them as something they are not designed to be.

[crafty35a]

Fair enough. In that case, consider this a feature request. A small change like this would be a big help to someone who likes to play the way I do.

[The Wolf]

I have found that dealing personally with my minor league teams and players on detail is both entertaining and rewarding. For one thing, when a player makes it to The Show, you already know him and his capabilities quite well. And you know where everyone came from, and why.